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This seems to be a very myopic view of a large and diverse country. I've seen both extremes when it comes to talent and ethics.

jorblumesea 8y ago
Have you been to Brazil? Brazilians take the entire day off to go to the bank because it takes that long and processes are so inefficient. I was shocked at how non functional the society is as a whole. Their national museum just burned down because the country couldn't even allocate funding properly. You expect running a business there is going to be a simple and transparent affair? This is not a knock on the people themselves. They're smart, caring and competent, but to be honest, the country is a mess.
- adnzzzzZ 8y ago
  As a Brazilian I'm not going to deny that the country is full of problems, but the person you replied to said that the country is big and that both extremes exist. No need to focus only on the negatives when the country has many things going for it.
  - jorblumesea 8y ago
    Completely agree, pretty inflammatory and vaguely racist comment. I think we can also agree things are far more negative than positive nowadays. Temer is really just the another nail in the coffin for functional Brazilian society. Things are looking much more bleak compared to a decade ago.
    - adnzzzzZ 8y ago
      I actually disagree and I'm highly optimistic for the future of my country. But I'm aware that I'm a minority when it comes to this opinion.
      - jorblumesea 8y ago
        That's fair, keep the positivity alive! :) But most Brazilians I've talked paint the picture as a dire situation, unfortunately. Best of luck.
- tambourine_man 8y ago
  >Brazilians take the entire day off to go to the bank That is completely false. I can’t imagine where you got this from. Brazilian baking is years ahead of the US, not that it represents a high bar.
  - diego_moita 8y ago
    > I can’t imagine where you got this from. Perhaps from daily life? There are long lines on most bank branches I go to, unless you're wealthy enough for the manager to pamper you. Red tape in this country is so bad that there is a whole industry to avoid it ("despachantes"). BTW, the trick this industry uses to avoid banking lines is to hire old retired people to buck the line for them (there's a law here giving to old people that privilege). They basically screw everyone else by buying privileges. Some call it the "Brazilian touch" (jeitinho brasileiro), I call it corrupted morals. > Brazilian baking is years ahead of the US Really? To do online banking in your computer with Banco do Brasil you need to ask permission to your branch manager and install a specific virus on your computer. I believe the same goes for Bradesco and Itaú. Many ATMs and branches in small towns are being closed and leaving those places without financial services because mobs moved from big cities to rob those places without good police. And, guess what, people there can't do online banking.
    - tambourine_man 8y ago
      Red tape is bad, but obiquious cellphones helps a lot. The US still uses checks and signed credit card receipts. Compared to that Brazil’s banking system is state of the art. >To do online banking in your computer with Banco do Brasil you need to ask permission to your branch manager and install a virus on your computer Yes, but most people use the phone app, which is ok. Banking on a computer is bad everywhere.
      - afarrell 8y ago
        > and signed credit card receipts chip & pin rolled out a year and a half or so ago, including to a small general store in rural central Maine.
diego_moita 8y ago
> I've seen both extremes when it comes to talent and ethics. Extremes exist in every country but a bad average exists just in some. Brazilian average is bad.

jorblumesea 8y ago

Have you been to Brazil? Brazilians take the entire day off to go to the bank because it takes that long and processes are so inefficient. I was shocked at how non functional the society is as a whole. Their national museum just burned down because the country couldn't even allocate funding properly. You expect running a business there is going to be a simple and transparent affair? This is not a knock on the people themselves. They're smart, caring and competent, but to be honest, the country is a mess.

adnzzzzZ 8y ago
As a Brazilian I'm not going to deny that the country is full of problems, but the person you replied to said that the country is big and that both extremes exist. No need to focus only on the negatives when the country has many things going for it.
- jorblumesea 8y ago
  Completely agree, pretty inflammatory and vaguely racist comment. I think we can also agree things are far more negative than positive nowadays. Temer is really just the another nail in the coffin for functional Brazilian society. Things are looking much more bleak compared to a decade ago.
  - adnzzzzZ 8y ago
    I actually disagree and I'm highly optimistic for the future of my country. But I'm aware that I'm a minority when it comes to this opinion.
    - jorblumesea 8y ago
      That's fair, keep the positivity alive! :) But most Brazilians I've talked paint the picture as a dire situation, unfortunately. Best of luck.
tambourine_man 8y ago
>Brazilians take the entire day off to go to the bank That is completely false. I can’t imagine where you got this from. Brazilian baking is years ahead of the US, not that it represents a high bar.
- diego_moita 8y ago
  > I can’t imagine where you got this from. Perhaps from daily life? There are long lines on most bank branches I go to, unless you're wealthy enough for the manager to pamper you. Red tape in this country is so bad that there is a whole industry to avoid it ("despachantes"). BTW, the trick this industry uses to avoid banking lines is to hire old retired people to buck the line for them (there's a law here giving to old people that privilege). They basically screw everyone else by buying privileges. Some call it the "Brazilian touch" (jeitinho brasileiro), I call it corrupted morals. > Brazilian baking is years ahead of the US Really? To do online banking in your computer with Banco do Brasil you need to ask permission to your branch manager and install a specific virus on your computer. I believe the same goes for Bradesco and Itaú. Many ATMs and branches in small towns are being closed and leaving those places without financial services because mobs moved from big cities to rob those places without good police. And, guess what, people there can't do online banking.
  - tambourine_man 8y ago
    Red tape is bad, but obiquious cellphones helps a lot. The US still uses checks and signed credit card receipts. Compared to that Brazil’s banking system is state of the art. >To do online banking in your computer with Banco do Brasil you need to ask permission to your branch manager and install a virus on your computer Yes, but most people use the phone app, which is ok. Banking on a computer is bad everywhere.
    - afarrell 8y ago
      > and signed credit card receipts chip & pin rolled out a year and a half or so ago, including to a small general store in rural central Maine.

diego_moita 8y ago

> I've seen both extremes when it comes to talent and ethics. Extremes exist in every country but a bad average exists just in some. Brazilian average is bad.