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You are conflating unethical behavior with unpleasant - two very different things. If it was unclear, I am explicitly referring to the latter, which again is h

You are conflating unethical behavior with unpleasant - two very different things. If it was unclear, I am explicitly referring to the latter, which again is highly relative. A company full of dog lovers with a pet friendly office would have a high 'asshole score' to someone who is allergic to dogs while at the same time being highly appealing to some. Accommodating 'poor culture fits' in this hypothetical company would ruin the appeal for many who work there, negatively impacting business metrics like employee retention/acquisition.

watwut 8y ago
Legally speaking, wouldn't the guy with allergy be federally protected class here? He has medical reason not directly related to work for why the office is not suitable for him. It seems to fall into legal definition. Also, dog lovers I know in real life are not assholes to people with allergies or fears. My experience is that most accept allergies as real medical issues and would seek solution. I also think that you are using the word asshole to liberally as in meaning "anyone who annoyed me mildly". That is not how "asshole" or "asshole culture" terms are normally used. Why being unpleasant is part of being asshole typically, it is not the whole thing. Typically, there are very real negative externalities on top of just being unpleasant (for example other people wasting time dealing with asshole temper tamptrums, people no voicing objections due to them or having to tip toe around him or spending a lot of effort to work around that person peculiarities etc).
- tsukikage 8y ago
  The most common point of conflict of this sort IME is "I prefer a quiet environment, people talking / listening to music around me disturbs my concentration" vs "I prefer to be around conversation / banter / music, a quiet environment makes me feel lonely, miserable and lethargic"

watwut 8y ago

Legally speaking, wouldn't the guy with allergy be federally protected class here? He has medical reason not directly related to work for why the office is not suitable for him. It seems to fall into legal definition. Also, dog lovers I know in real life are not assholes to people with allergies or fears. My experience is that most accept allergies as real medical issues and would seek solution. I also think that you are using the word asshole to liberally as in meaning "anyone who annoyed me mildly". That is not how "asshole" or "asshole culture" terms are normally used. Why being unpleasant is part of being asshole typically, it is not the whole thing. Typically, there are very real negative externalities on top of just being unpleasant (for example other people wasting time dealing with asshole temper tamptrums, people no voicing objections due to them or having to tip toe around him or spending a lot of effort to work around that person peculiarities etc).

tsukikage 8y ago
The most common point of conflict of this sort IME is "I prefer a quiet environment, people talking / listening to music around me disturbs my concentration" vs "I prefer to be around conversation / banter / music, a quiet environment makes me feel lonely, miserable and lethargic"