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That would be tall task and full time work for a full group. I am a single person with an unrelated day job. That said, here's a few: Panchgavya project, coord

by srean 8y ago

That would be tall task and full time work for a full group. I am a single person with an unrelated day job. That said, here's a few: Panchgavya project, coordinated by the Indian Institute of Technology in Delhi, internally approved 34 proposals for research into panchgavya ... to make cow urine capsules http://unnat.iitd.ac.in/index.php/Pages/display/news/urine_capsules http://unnat.iitd.ac.in/index.php/Pages/display/news/urine_c... https://thewire.in/the-sciences/cow-urine-distillate-cancer https://thewire.in/the-sciences/cow-urine-distillate-cancer IIT Delhi gets 50 research proposals to study benefits of cow urine under SVAROP program https://indianexpress.com/article/india/iit-delhi-gets-50-research-proposals-to-study-benefits-of-cow-urine-under-svarop-programme-4780110/ https://indianexpress.com/article/india/iit-delhi-gets-50-re... "After its proposal to make floor cleaners using cow urine, the Uttar Pradesh government has decided to give a push to the use of cow urine in preparing medicines." https://www.business-standard.com/article/current-affairs/adityanath-government-moots-use-of-cow-urine-to-make-medicines-118020400206_1.html https://www.business-standard.com/article/current-affairs/ad... Government undertaking research to promote use of cow urine, Lok Sabha told https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/government-undertaking-research-to-promote-use-of-cow-urine-lok-sabha-told/articleshow/55622645.cms https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-natio... A non existent university gets prime ranking -- Reliance’s Jio Institute gets government’s Institution of Eminence status but it’s yet to be set up https://scroll.in/article/885897/reliances-jio-university-gets-governments-institute-of-eminence-status-but-its-yet-to-be-set-up https://scroll.in/article/885897/reliances-jio-university-ge... India's March For Science: Fund Research, Not Study of Cow, Say Scientists. https://www.news18.com/news/india/indias-march-for-science-fund-research-not-study-of-cow-say-scientists-1487283.html https://www.news18.com/news/india/indias-march-for-science-f... I would rather have scientists doing science rather being forced on the street to defend science

eklavya 8y ago
Panchgavya has a patent from the previous regime. IIT Delhi is not a collection of extremist morons. I would much rather take somebody betting their career on something than the random opinion on the Internet. Ayurveda has been an established practice for a long time. Somebody needs to bet their career on disproving it or else I will continue benefiting from it. I don’t know why you bring up Jio Institute here. I don’t know why you missed part of your own link where the scientist says “Scientists supporting the march say the need is to recognise the actual contributions made by ancient Indians, often whitewashed by the European school of science history, rooted in the Enlightenment period. However, this is getting lost in talk of interplanetary travel and cosmetic surgery during the Vedic ages. This had been publicly denounced by Indian Nobel laureate V Ramakrishnan Anne. He even refused to attend the Indian Science Congress last year.“ This is just storm in a tea cup. I don’t remember seeing any cutbacks on any of the scientific programs. In fact some of the long awaited research programs like the neutrino lab came up. So again what exactly was important that was cut back?
- srean 8y ago
  > Panchgavya has a patent from the previous regime Patent on what ? Let me leave this for you from the same article "Vardhan, who was a member of Parliament from the Bharatiya Janata Party then, is now minister of science and technology. But in the years after the conference, the subject received no interest from the Congress-led United Progressive Alliance, which was in power till 2014. This changed when the BJP-led National Democratic Alliance came to power that year. And in November last year, Minister of State for Ayush Shripad Yesso Naik announced in the Lok Sabha that the government intended to undertake research and academic activities to promote the use of cow urine, especially its “anti-cancer and anti-infective” properties." No IITD aren't morons but they sure no which way the wind blows and what research topics are favorite and which projects will have funds allocated at another projects expense. Missed nothing from the quote you pasted. I agree with it. Re Jio Institute, that's an example of an endorsement from the topmost level possible to an university that exists on paper. If my examples dont convince you that those are mis-allocation of funds, continuing further is moot. In case you have a change of tastes, just a reminder mine has vitamins and hormones too. Even the PM would be most cordially welcome.
  - eklavya 8y ago
    > In case you have a change of tastes, just a reminder mine has vitamins and hormones too. Even the PM would be most cordially welcomed to it. Hahahaha, not so easy. Get a bunch of people excited about your urine and come up with some results. I will be all over it, why not?
    - random314 8y ago
      Will you fund the research or convince the government to fund it?
  - murukesh_s 8y ago
    I haven't done research, but one possible explanation I heard about cow urine (organic grass fed) is in helping balancing the stomach bacteria. We as modern humans have still not fully understood the effects and side effects of gut flora completely. Even recently gut bacteria is linked to heart diseases.(#1: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/07/170711093012.htm https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/07/170711093012.h..., #2: http://sciencenordic.com/gut-bacteria-flora-linked-chronic-heart-failure http://sciencenordic.com/gut-bacteria-flora-linked-chronic-h...). So we definitely have a long way to go in understanding our own body, which our forefathers might have gotten a better understanding. Cow urine is also prescribed as a drug by Ayurveda, which isn't an occult science or anything and have survived well into modern age. Several practitioners of Ayurveda used advanced surgical technologies, perhaps first in the world. e.g.: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cataract_surgery#History https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cataract_surgery#History https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e0/Ancient_Hindu_text_Sushruta_samhita_yantra%2C_surgical_instruments_4_of_4.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e0/Ancient_... https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cc/Ancient_Hindu_text_Sushruta_samhita_shastra_and_kartarika%2C_surgical_instruments_1_of_4.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cc/Ancient_...

by srean 8y ago

eklavya 8y ago

Panchgavya has a patent from the previous regime. IIT Delhi is not a collection of extremist morons. I would much rather take somebody betting their career on something than the random opinion on the Internet. Ayurveda has been an established practice for a long time. Somebody needs to bet their career on disproving it or else I will continue benefiting from it. I don’t know why you bring up Jio Institute here. I don’t know why you missed part of your own link where the scientist says “Scientists supporting the march say the need is to recognise the actual contributions made by ancient Indians, often whitewashed by the European school of science history, rooted in the Enlightenment period. However, this is getting lost in talk of interplanetary travel and cosmetic surgery during the Vedic ages. This had been publicly denounced by Indian Nobel laureate V Ramakrishnan Anne. He even refused to attend the Indian Science Congress last year.“ This is just storm in a tea cup. I don’t remember seeing any cutbacks on any of the scientific programs. In fact some of the long awaited research programs like the neutrino lab came up. So again what exactly was important that was cut back?

srean 8y ago
> Panchgavya has a patent from the previous regime Patent on what ? Let me leave this for you from the same article "Vardhan, who was a member of Parliament from the Bharatiya Janata Party then, is now minister of science and technology. But in the years after the conference, the subject received no interest from the Congress-led United Progressive Alliance, which was in power till 2014. This changed when the BJP-led National Democratic Alliance came to power that year. And in November last year, Minister of State for Ayush Shripad Yesso Naik announced in the Lok Sabha that the government intended to undertake research and academic activities to promote the use of cow urine, especially its “anti-cancer and anti-infective” properties." No IITD aren't morons but they sure no which way the wind blows and what research topics are favorite and which projects will have funds allocated at another projects expense. Missed nothing from the quote you pasted. I agree with it. Re Jio Institute, that's an example of an endorsement from the topmost level possible to an university that exists on paper. If my examples dont convince you that those are mis-allocation of funds, continuing further is moot. In case you have a change of tastes, just a reminder mine has vitamins and hormones too. Even the PM would be most cordially welcome.
- eklavya 8y ago
  > In case you have a change of tastes, just a reminder mine has vitamins and hormones too. Even the PM would be most cordially welcomed to it. Hahahaha, not so easy. Get a bunch of people excited about your urine and come up with some results. I will be all over it, why not?
  - random314 8y ago
    Will you fund the research or convince the government to fund it?
- murukesh_s 8y ago
  I haven't done research, but one possible explanation I heard about cow urine (organic grass fed) is in helping balancing the stomach bacteria. We as modern humans have still not fully understood the effects and side effects of gut flora completely. Even recently gut bacteria is linked to heart diseases.(#1: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/07/170711093012.htm https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/07/170711093012.h..., #2: http://sciencenordic.com/gut-bacteria-flora-linked-chronic-heart-failure http://sciencenordic.com/gut-bacteria-flora-linked-chronic-h...). So we definitely have a long way to go in understanding our own body, which our forefathers might have gotten a better understanding. Cow urine is also prescribed as a drug by Ayurveda, which isn't an occult science or anything and have survived well into modern age. Several practitioners of Ayurveda used advanced surgical technologies, perhaps first in the world. e.g.: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cataract_surgery#History https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cataract_surgery#History https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e0/Ancient_Hindu_text_Sushruta_samhita_yantra%2C_surgical_instruments_4_of_4.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e0/Ancient_... https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cc/Ancient_Hindu_text_Sushruta_samhita_shastra_and_kartarika%2C_surgical_instruments_1_of_4.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cc/Ancient_...