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Stuff like my browser fingerprint, what extensions am I using, what website am I browsing, what operating system am I running, what is my location, etc. It's n

by m_b 8y ago

Stuff like my browser fingerprint, what extensions am I using, what website am I browsing, what operating system am I running, what is my location, etc. It's not about conspiracy theories, just acknowledging that we don't know what's happening under the hood.

dvdgsng 8y ago
And how is this related to Vivaldi in particular? How is it different from any other software and service out there? You don't know what websites do with your client data (fingerprint, extensions, etc), what cookies they write & read and who are they selling that data to. If there are no laws preventing them from doing such BS, all you can do is trust, believe and hope they do the right thing (GDPR is a move in the right direction here). Having a basic understanding of the internet and tracking helps, using proper tools to help yourself is even better (cookie manager, uMatrix, uBlock and alike).
- m_b 8y ago
  It's not related to Vivaldi in particular, it's related to the fact that you must give a blind trust to all non open-source browser you decide to use.
- morganvachon 8y ago
  > You don't know what websites do with your client data (fingerprint, extensions, etc), what cookies they write & read and who are they selling that data to. You can take actions within the browser and on your network to mitigate what websites can and can't do with your data. However, if your browser itself is compromised and closed source, there's nothing you can do about it and you can't even be sure what data is being extracted and used.
JdeBP 8y ago
You haven't read the source? * https://vivaldi.com/source/ https://vivaldi.com/source/
- m_b 8y ago
  https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17950610 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17950610
  - JdeBP 8y ago
    That's a deflection and avoiding an answer. You say that you do not know what is happening under the hood. There's a published archive of program source code to read. So what is stopping you from reading it and finding out what the program does under the hood? Difficulty with tar? Or with xz?

by m_b 8y ago

dvdgsng 8y ago

And how is this related to Vivaldi in particular? How is it different from any other software and service out there? You don't know what websites do with your client data (fingerprint, extensions, etc), what cookies they write & read and who are they selling that data to. If there are no laws preventing them from doing such BS, all you can do is trust, believe and hope they do the right thing (GDPR is a move in the right direction here). Having a basic understanding of the internet and tracking helps, using proper tools to help yourself is even better (cookie manager, uMatrix, uBlock and alike).

m_b 8y ago
It's not related to Vivaldi in particular, it's related to the fact that you must give a blind trust to all non open-source browser you decide to use.
morganvachon 8y ago
> You don't know what websites do with your client data (fingerprint, extensions, etc), what cookies they write & read and who are they selling that data to. You can take actions within the browser and on your network to mitigate what websites can and can't do with your data. However, if your browser itself is compromised and closed source, there's nothing you can do about it and you can't even be sure what data is being extracted and used.

JdeBP 8y ago

You haven't read the source? * https://vivaldi.com/source/ https://vivaldi.com/source/

m_b 8y ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17950610 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17950610
- JdeBP 8y ago
  That's a deflection and avoiding an answer. You say that you do not know what is happening under the hood. There's a published archive of program source code to read. So what is stopping you from reading it and finding out what the program does under the hood? Difficulty with tar? Or with xz?