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Under the aegis of, Narendra "Ganesha is proof Hindus knew plastic surgery in vedic times" Modi, many self appointed spokesperson of what Hindu's believe in, ha

by srean 8y ago

Under the aegis of, Narendra "Ganesha is proof Hindus knew plastic surgery in vedic times" Modi, many self appointed spokesperson of what Hindu's believe in, have come out of the woodwork. They are the western analogue of humans riding on flying dinosaurs. Its the same phenomena. Now, we have our own Ku Klux Klan -- the cow rakshak's who are on a murderous spree with an implicit promise from the government that they will be insulated from justice. Here's a partial list for HN's entertainment. https://www.altnews.in/bjp-science-ganeshas-plastic-surgery-yoga-can-cure-cancer/ https://www.altnews.in/bjp-science-ganeshas-plastic-surgery-... a collection of youtube videos of the Prime Minister of India making such claims and videos of some other assorted jokers who are running the country.

murukesh_s 8y ago
Please don't drag politics into HN.. I know you can link anything to a ideology or government and start bashing it. let's not do that.
- srean 8y ago
  Nothing to do with politics. Everything to do with rationality. We need the likes of James Randi by the hordes here in India, especially when our own are getting bumped off frequently lately. > I know you can link anything to a ideology By the way I am not linking 'anything' tenuous, these are direct video quotes from the country's leadership -- the prime minister of India, and other ministers
eklavya 8y ago
Those people saying the same things were always there. They just get more news time nowadays. As long as the scientific progress is not hampered, I don't really care what the PM or some enthusiasts believe in. I think it's as harmless as people believing/not believing in God.
- srean 8y ago
  Huge difference. These are the decision makers of the country. These are the people who are going to decide which ideas to back, which institutes and projects to fund, what to turn a blind eye to. As the famous advert goes -- there are many thing medicines cannot cure, for everything else there is cow piss. That's what will get funded. Apparently the reasoning goes that there are a lot of vitamins and hormones in there. Last time I checked there is a lot in mine too. I wonder why dont they line up right here.
  - eklavya 8y ago
    No need for “will”s. The term is near ended. Can you support your theory with real incidents? Which research was funded, which wasn’t funded?
    - srean 8y ago
      That would be tall task and full time work for a full group. I am a single person with an unrelated day job. That said, here's a few: Panchgavya project, coordinated by the Indian Institute of Technology in Delhi, internally approved 34 proposals for research into panchgavya ... to make cow urine capsules http://unnat.iitd.ac.in/index.php/Pages/display/news/urine_capsules http://unnat.iitd.ac.in/index.php/Pages/display/news/urine_c... https://thewire.in/the-sciences/cow-urine-distillate-cancer https://thewire.in/the-sciences/cow-urine-distillate-cancer IIT Delhi gets 50 research proposals to study benefits of cow urine under SVAROP program https://indianexpress.com/article/india/iit-delhi-gets-50-research-proposals-to-study-benefits-of-cow-urine-under-svarop-programme-4780110/ https://indianexpress.com/article/india/iit-delhi-gets-50-re... "After its proposal to make floor cleaners using cow urine, the Uttar Pradesh government has decided to give a push to the use of cow urine in preparing medicines." https://www.business-standard.com/article/current-affairs/adityanath-government-moots-use-of-cow-urine-to-make-medicines-118020400206_1.html https://www.business-standard.com/article/current-affairs/ad... Government undertaking research to promote use of cow urine, Lok Sabha told https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/government-undertaking-research-to-promote-use-of-cow-urine-lok-sabha-told/articleshow/55622645.cms https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-natio... A non existent university gets prime ranking -- Reliance’s Jio Institute gets government’s Institution of Eminence status but it’s yet to be set up https://scroll.in/article/885897/reliances-jio-university-gets-governments-institute-of-eminence-status-but-its-yet-to-be-set-up https://scroll.in/article/885897/reliances-jio-university-ge... India's March For Science: Fund Research, Not Study of Cow, Say Scientists. https://www.news18.com/news/india/indias-march-for-science-fund-research-not-study-of-cow-say-scientists-1487283.html https://www.news18.com/news/india/indias-march-for-science-f... I would rather have scientists doing science rather being forced on the street to defend science
neel8986 8y ago
It seems around the world being unscientific and plain stupid is a great asset for winning democratic elections. We will be horrified if a well know professional speaks such rubbish but somehow okay with the facts that such people can handle countries with multi-trillion dollar economy
- srean 8y ago
  I used to find some comfort in the fact that Indian politicians were in some ways better than the types of Michelle Bachman. They knew enough not to flaunt their ignorance and knew when they were out of their depth. Apparently no more.
M_Bakhtiari 8y ago
WE WUZ ELAPHANTS!!1! Maybe that Yakub was a foreign exchange student to IIT back in the day.

by srean 8y ago

murukesh_s 8y ago

Please don't drag politics into HN.. I know you can link anything to a ideology or government and start bashing it. let's not do that.

srean 8y ago
Nothing to do with politics. Everything to do with rationality. We need the likes of James Randi by the hordes here in India, especially when our own are getting bumped off frequently lately. > I know you can link anything to a ideology By the way I am not linking 'anything' tenuous, these are direct video quotes from the country's leadership -- the prime minister of India, and other ministers

eklavya 8y ago

Those people saying the same things were always there. They just get more news time nowadays. As long as the scientific progress is not hampered, I don't really care what the PM or some enthusiasts believe in. I think it's as harmless as people believing/not believing in God.

srean 8y ago
Huge difference. These are the decision makers of the country. These are the people who are going to decide which ideas to back, which institutes and projects to fund, what to turn a blind eye to. As the famous advert goes -- there are many thing medicines cannot cure, for everything else there is cow piss. That's what will get funded. Apparently the reasoning goes that there are a lot of vitamins and hormones in there. Last time I checked there is a lot in mine too. I wonder why dont they line up right here.
- eklavya 8y ago
  No need for “will”s. The term is near ended. Can you support your theory with real incidents? Which research was funded, which wasn’t funded?
  - srean 8y ago
    That would be tall task and full time work for a full group. I am a single person with an unrelated day job. That said, here's a few: Panchgavya project, coordinated by the Indian Institute of Technology in Delhi, internally approved 34 proposals for research into panchgavya ... to make cow urine capsules http://unnat.iitd.ac.in/index.php/Pages/display/news/urine_capsules http://unnat.iitd.ac.in/index.php/Pages/display/news/urine_c... https://thewire.in/the-sciences/cow-urine-distillate-cancer https://thewire.in/the-sciences/cow-urine-distillate-cancer IIT Delhi gets 50 research proposals to study benefits of cow urine under SVAROP program https://indianexpress.com/article/india/iit-delhi-gets-50-research-proposals-to-study-benefits-of-cow-urine-under-svarop-programme-4780110/ https://indianexpress.com/article/india/iit-delhi-gets-50-re... "After its proposal to make floor cleaners using cow urine, the Uttar Pradesh government has decided to give a push to the use of cow urine in preparing medicines." https://www.business-standard.com/article/current-affairs/adityanath-government-moots-use-of-cow-urine-to-make-medicines-118020400206_1.html https://www.business-standard.com/article/current-affairs/ad... Government undertaking research to promote use of cow urine, Lok Sabha told https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/government-undertaking-research-to-promote-use-of-cow-urine-lok-sabha-told/articleshow/55622645.cms https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-natio... A non existent university gets prime ranking -- Reliance’s Jio Institute gets government’s Institution of Eminence status but it’s yet to be set up https://scroll.in/article/885897/reliances-jio-university-gets-governments-institute-of-eminence-status-but-its-yet-to-be-set-up https://scroll.in/article/885897/reliances-jio-university-ge... India's March For Science: Fund Research, Not Study of Cow, Say Scientists. https://www.news18.com/news/india/indias-march-for-science-fund-research-not-study-of-cow-say-scientists-1487283.html https://www.news18.com/news/india/indias-march-for-science-f... I would rather have scientists doing science rather being forced on the street to defend science

neel8986 8y ago

It seems around the world being unscientific and plain stupid is a great asset for winning democratic elections. We will be horrified if a well know professional speaks such rubbish but somehow okay with the facts that such people can handle countries with multi-trillion dollar economy

srean 8y ago
I used to find some comfort in the fact that Indian politicians were in some ways better than the types of Michelle Bachman. They knew enough not to flaunt their ignorance and knew when they were out of their depth. Apparently no more.

M_Bakhtiari 8y ago

WE WUZ ELAPHANTS!!1! Maybe that Yakub was a foreign exchange student to IIT back in the day.