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None of that really matters if Mars is on the other side of sun from Earth. You'd need relay satellites to direct the signal around the sun, and even at the spe

by codeka 8y ago

None of that really matters if Mars is on the other side of sun from Earth. You'd need relay satellites to direct the signal around the sun, and even at the speed of light that's going to take tens of minutes, one way. As the parents suggest, even at Earth-Moon distances, we need to completely rethink things.

heavenlyblue 8y ago
So who cares? Just adapt the TCP timeouts (resend timeouts) to 10 minutes. We’ll end up with the same, TCP-based system, except it’s going to be somewhat different, as time scales are not invariant for us humans.
- the_clarence 8y ago
  I just wanted to play counter strike with the mars people
  - kakarot 8y ago
    You will have to attend community tournaments and compete locally for the chance to play against a Mars team over a high-bandwidth satellite array, possibly on a lunar base, possibly only during seasons of opposition between Earth and Mars. Even then, you will be playing on a specially-modified version of the game that disables server-side anticheat systems, instead relying on human referees.
- collinmanderson 8y ago
  My guess is we'll just have local datacenters on mars for the big services (google, netflix, etc). And then more websites will use services like cloudflare so they can get their website cached on mars. AWS will eventually have a mars datacenter. No need for IPFS.
  - basilgohar 8y ago
    This papers over the whole "relying on large cloud providers" issues in the first place. A decentralized system will ensure that websites won't need to rely on large, centralized powers beyond core infrastructure providers (which we have to fight to ensure are neutral parties, ala Net Neutrality) to avoid concentration of power to a select few.
  - nielsole 8y ago
    While I agree with your assessment, it reminds me of the "flying horse carriage" view of the future. Wouldn't be surprised, if multiplanetary hosting would change things more generally.

by codeka 8y ago

heavenlyblue 8y ago

So who cares? Just adapt the TCP timeouts (resend timeouts) to 10 minutes. We’ll end up with the same, TCP-based system, except it’s going to be somewhat different, as time scales are not invariant for us humans.

the_clarence 8y ago
I just wanted to play counter strike with the mars people
- kakarot 8y ago
  You will have to attend community tournaments and compete locally for the chance to play against a Mars team over a high-bandwidth satellite array, possibly on a lunar base, possibly only during seasons of opposition between Earth and Mars. Even then, you will be playing on a specially-modified version of the game that disables server-side anticheat systems, instead relying on human referees.
collinmanderson 8y ago
My guess is we'll just have local datacenters on mars for the big services (google, netflix, etc). And then more websites will use services like cloudflare so they can get their website cached on mars. AWS will eventually have a mars datacenter. No need for IPFS.
- basilgohar 8y ago
  This papers over the whole "relying on large cloud providers" issues in the first place. A decentralized system will ensure that websites won't need to rely on large, centralized powers beyond core infrastructure providers (which we have to fight to ensure are neutral parties, ala Net Neutrality) to avoid concentration of power to a select few.
- nielsole 8y ago
  While I agree with your assessment, it reminds me of the "flying horse carriage" view of the future. Wouldn't be surprised, if multiplanetary hosting would change things more generally.