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I agree Java is dying, but so is .Net. Microsoft is trying it's best, but .Net Core is no where near as popular as .Net 3.5. (google trends). Embrace the Bea

I agree Java is dying, but so is .Net. Microsoft is trying it's best, but .Net Core is no where near as popular as .Net 3.5. (google trends). Embrace the Beam. :)

jpalomaki 8y ago
My feeling is that .NET core is just starting to gather steam. I think it took some time before developers understood what was happening (and probably still quite many .NET developers could not describe the differences). This Google Trends search shows .NET Core as leading since February 2017 [1] [1] https://trends.google.fi/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=.net%20core,.net%203.5 https://trends.google.fi/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=....
geezerjay 8y ago
In your opinion what software platform will replace java and .net?
- oldpond 8y ago
  Elixir and the Erlang Beam are eating their lunch right now. Vastly more scalable and a joy to program.
  - kod 8y ago
    https://www.indeed.com/jobs?q=java&l= https://www.indeed.com/jobs?q=java&l= 26,689 java jobs https://www.indeed.com/q-erlang-jobs.html https://www.indeed.com/q-erlang-jobs.html 83 erlang jobs
    - pjmlp 8y ago
      To add to it, as OP was mentioning Java and .NET being taken over Elixir https://www.indeed.com/jobs?q=.net&l= https://www.indeed.com/jobs?q=.net&l= 56,630 .NET jobs
pjmlp 8y ago
Only on SV coffee shops. My world is pretty much divided between Java and .NET, with a sprinkle of C++.
- sh87 8y ago
  Enterprise is slow but sure to follow. Look at NodeJS adoption for example today compared to 2 years ago.
  - pjmlp 8y ago
    Adoption is still zero on the projects I am involved with, to the point that one of the new features in Visual Studio is to access JavaScript libraries without any dependency on nodejs. https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/webdev/2018/04/17/library-manager-client-side-content-manager-for-web-apps/ https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/webdev/2018/04/17/library-m...
    - sh87 8y ago
      So you work on enterprise projects which have zero NodeJs adoption. Got it. And what's with the reference to the plugin ? It explicitly states itself as being a way to "simply [want to] acquire a couple of files" I don't get the connection you're trying to make.
      - pjmlp 8y ago
        Apparently you haven't read everything. " - If your project does not require additional tools (like Node, npm, Gulp, Grunt, WebPack, etc) and you simply want to acquire a couple of files, then LibMan might be for you. - LibMan lets you specify exactly where the files should be placed inside your project. (No additional build tasks or manual file copying required!) - LibMan provides the benefit of a much smaller footprint in your web project as it only downloads the files you need. " Basically the way to avoid touching node or anything related to it.
        sh87 8y ago

I agree Java is dying, but so is .Net. Microsoft is trying it's best, but .Net Core is no where near as popular as .Net 3.5. (google trends). Embrace the Beam. :)

jpalomaki 8y ago

My feeling is that .NET core is just starting to gather steam. I think it took some time before developers understood what was happening (and probably still quite many .NET developers could not describe the differences). This Google Trends search shows .NET Core as leading since February 2017 [1] [1] https://trends.google.fi/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=.net%20core,.net%203.5 https://trends.google.fi/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=....

geezerjay 8y ago

In your opinion what software platform will replace java and .net?

oldpond 8y ago
Elixir and the Erlang Beam are eating their lunch right now. Vastly more scalable and a joy to program.
- kod 8y ago
  https://www.indeed.com/jobs?q=java&l= https://www.indeed.com/jobs?q=java&l= 26,689 java jobs https://www.indeed.com/q-erlang-jobs.html https://www.indeed.com/q-erlang-jobs.html 83 erlang jobs
  - pjmlp 8y ago
    To add to it, as OP was mentioning Java and .NET being taken over Elixir https://www.indeed.com/jobs?q=.net&l= https://www.indeed.com/jobs?q=.net&l= 56,630 .NET jobs

pjmlp 8y ago

Only on SV coffee shops. My world is pretty much divided between Java and .NET, with a sprinkle of C++.

sh87 8y ago
Enterprise is slow but sure to follow. Look at NodeJS adoption for example today compared to 2 years ago.
- pjmlp 8y ago
  Adoption is still zero on the projects I am involved with, to the point that one of the new features in Visual Studio is to access JavaScript libraries without any dependency on nodejs. https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/webdev/2018/04/17/library-manager-client-side-content-manager-for-web-apps/ https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/webdev/2018/04/17/library-m...
  - sh87 8y ago
    So you work on enterprise projects which have zero NodeJs adoption. Got it. And what's with the reference to the plugin ? It explicitly states itself as being a way to "simply [want to] acquire a couple of files" I don't get the connection you're trying to make.
    - pjmlp 8y ago
      Apparently you haven't read everything. " - If your project does not require additional tools (like Node, npm, Gulp, Grunt, WebPack, etc) and you simply want to acquire a couple of files, then LibMan might be for you. - LibMan lets you specify exactly where the files should be placed inside your project. (No additional build tasks or manual file copying required!) - LibMan provides the benefit of a much smaller footprint in your web project as it only downloads the files you need. " Basically the way to avoid touching node or anything related to it.
      - sh87 8y ago