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I'm wondering if the downvotes are from me not citing sources or from people getting triggered.

• XorNot 8y ago
  Eating meat is a manly-man activity and what no one wants out of study like this is to have their preconceptions challenged or to hear they might have to change their behaviour in any way.
  • sheepmullet 8y ago
    > Eating meat is a manly-man activity and what no one wants out of study like this is to have their preconceptions challenged Not really - for example most “manly-men” can agree heavy drinking decreases testosterone levels.
  • msiyer 8y ago
    >> Eating meat is a manly-man activity This is something that baffles me. The biggest, strongest mammals are herbivorous - elephant, bull, bison... Even the best carnivorous animals meditate for a few hours and seek divine help before messing with these guys. Why is eating grass, not a manly-man activity?
• Youden 8y ago
  Definitely the former. HN doesn't take well to people making unsubstantiated assertions. If you want to make a statement like this, don't bother unless you have evidence. It's also usually better to frame it around the evidence, like "this study from UCLA found that higher consumption of animal products led to decreased testosterone levels". This way, the discussion will be focused on the evidence or the conclusion you drew from it.
  • sixstringbudha 8y ago
    >HN doesn't take well to people making unsubstantiated assertions. ooooo..scary. Tell something that fits with the hive mind narrative and HN will give you all its love without asking for no citation. (I mean, some one might ask for it, but HN will take care of flagging it and make it disappear). So do all forums where there is an ability for people to down vote stuff.
    • winceschwab 8y ago
      “The atom bomb works. Fission makes uranium explode.” See how I didn’t need a citation? It’s because the facts are not only well-understood, but a river of citation is ready to flow for you, and you would have to dig for verifiable evidence. You could pull up a youtube video, and watch facts unfold, as real world events from the past. “My pets love me. I know this is true because I see it in them every day.” You know what? Possible. But you couldn’t offer a citation, if you wanted to. And on top of that, there’s no easy way to discern what goes on inside an animal’s mind, or whether the situation changed and the statement no longer holds up. “Animal products cause problems for those who consume them.” Is a broad statement, enough to be useless. “It’s been found that consuming animal products is associated with this specific problem.” Better, but says who? And associated does not indicate cause and effect. It doesn’t even indicate a direct relationship. “Consuming animal products causes this specific problem.” How? Under what conditions? What’s the mechanism? Who can replicate these results? Why is it not universally applicable, when we can look back on history, and point to people living over 100 years, without encountering the specific problems mentioned?
      • sixstringbudha 8y ago
        Some statements might warrant citations, while some might not. That is your argument, right? Given! Now, hop along your merry way!