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Can we please stop this "only artists are allowed to make art" nonsense? The lady of the lake didn't come out and bless special individuals as "artists" and the

Can we please stop this "only artists are allowed to make art" nonsense? The lady of the lake didn't come out and bless special individuals as "artists" and the rest of us as foolish undeserving heathens.

pidg 8y ago
By choosing to make art, you become an artist, so in that sense only artists _do_ make art. This isn't art, though. Art isn't functional, art creates thought and emotion. Art has thought and emotion behind it. Code can make art, but there has to be a genuine artistic intent behind the code. At best, this is design, but in reality this is a code snippet that generates random boxes.
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fjfaase 8y ago
If I would write a program that produces random text and I call it a science fiction generator (as in science fiction everything is allowed), would you not tell me to go and read some real science fiction stories before making such a claim? There is no clear definition of who is an artist and who is not. It is also something that depends on the context and can even change over time. You are not born an artist, but some people, usually over time, are recognized as artist. Take for example Van Gogh. He did not go to art school and during his life time he was not recognized as an artist. He was too much ahead of his time. It was only after his death that the genius of his paintings was recognized. But would you call a program that imitates his style (using neural networks) generating art? Probably not, because it is just imitation. There is nothing new or insightful about it. It does not impact our thinking in any way.
- tomjen3 8y ago
  Honestly, most things that are labeled "art" do not impact my thinking in any way, and even things like Picasso's Guernica looks (to me) like a five-year-old attempting to do art.
  - mcphage 8y ago
    Look into some of Picasso’s earlier art, and his later art makes more sense. You can find drawing he did as a teenager which are fantastically perfect drawings. Seeing that made me understand him better—he didn’t want to be stuck in a tradition that he mastered as a child.
coldtea 8y ago
>The lady of the lake didn't come out and bless special individuals as "artists" and the rest of us as foolish undeserving heathens. No, hard work at aesthetics, vision, and talent did...

pidg 8y ago

By choosing to make art, you become an artist, so in that sense only artists _do_ make art. This isn't art, though. Art isn't functional, art creates thought and emotion. Art has thought and emotion behind it. Code can make art, but there has to be a genuine artistic intent behind the code. At best, this is design, but in reality this is a code snippet that generates random boxes.

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fjfaase 8y ago

If I would write a program that produces random text and I call it a science fiction generator (as in science fiction everything is allowed), would you not tell me to go and read some real science fiction stories before making such a claim? There is no clear definition of who is an artist and who is not. It is also something that depends on the context and can even change over time. You are not born an artist, but some people, usually over time, are recognized as artist. Take for example Van Gogh. He did not go to art school and during his life time he was not recognized as an artist. He was too much ahead of his time. It was only after his death that the genius of his paintings was recognized. But would you call a program that imitates his style (using neural networks) generating art? Probably not, because it is just imitation. There is nothing new or insightful about it. It does not impact our thinking in any way.

tomjen3 8y ago
Honestly, most things that are labeled "art" do not impact my thinking in any way, and even things like Picasso's Guernica looks (to me) like a five-year-old attempting to do art.
- mcphage 8y ago
  Look into some of Picasso’s earlier art, and his later art makes more sense. You can find drawing he did as a teenager which are fantastically perfect drawings. Seeing that made me understand him better—he didn’t want to be stuck in a tradition that he mastered as a child.

coldtea 8y ago

>The lady of the lake didn't come out and bless special individuals as "artists" and the rest of us as foolish undeserving heathens. No, hard work at aesthetics, vision, and talent did...