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There is something wrong with the Hacker News algorithm if this kind of simple box drawing algorithm with minimal content gets to second place.

by mikkom 8y ago

codingdave 8y ago
It is simple, but all art starts somewhere. Beginning artists in traditional media normally produce simple (dare I say, bad) artwork their first few years. The important question is what they do next - how do they improve it, how do they make it their own unique expression, what do they do with the resulting work? Simple is fine. Starting something new is good. Sharing it is how you get feedback and decide where to go next.
kickscondor 8y ago
I am going to guess that it means there is a thirst for more artist submissions. There is not enough color in the links submitted these days - so the slightest bit of color grabs the attention. I upvoted this because I want more that is in this vein, though I also don’t think its algorithm is worthless - it is good to start somewhere. (Personally, I find it ‘wrong’ that the Equifax article right now is first! Not that it is unworthy - just that I don’t care to read it.)
- HammadB 8y ago
  If you're eager to find more "creative coding" type works. Going on instagram and using hashtags like #creativecoding are a great way to find amazing work. Also twitter is a great source of absolutely mind-blowing artistic work that leverages technology. I've spent far too much time just browsing all the amazing stuff out there.
  - kickscondor 8y ago
    Ok, I did this - this is great, there are some 'neat'/'inspiring' things there. A few other questions for you: * How do I find more hashtags? I would have never found #creativecoding - is it known to be a community or is it just an ad hoc hashtag like #lostinthehashtags (which I just made up - but which has posts!) I guess what I'm saying is - I don't sense that these hashtags are a community - or are they? * As 'neat'/'inspiring' as these are, they are mostly only (very small) images and (very short) clips. I ultimately can't see myself using Instagram or Twitter much because you just kind of skim and can't go deeper. They lack the 'hypertext'. (This is similarly to the OP's trouble with this post just being a simple 'box algorithm' - where do I go for more? * Most of these look like art I've seen on t-shirts or album covers. Dating back even to the seventies. It is still beautiful and remarkable - but I can't help but wonder: Where is innovation happening in tech+art? I will say that I do follow a lot of things happening in vaporwave - any idea what else is happening out there? Thank you for your time, HammadB. I am eager.
    - jcelerier 8y ago
      > is it known to be a community indeed, also look up "new media art". Also, obligatory https://www.openprocessing.org/ https://www.openprocessing.org/ ... and obligatory self-promotion - I work in the field on a sequencer for creative coding : https://ossia.io https://ossia.io
  - userbinator 8y ago
    I'm surprised no one has mentioned the demoscene yet, because that is literally the most prominent intersection of programming and art (both in the traditional and programming sense.) Visit pouet.net and watch some demos for inspiration. Some of them have appeared on HN too: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11848097 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11848097 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14164907 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14164907
Jupe 8y ago
How about this: https://www.flickr.com/photos/abstractusinterruptus https://www.flickr.com/photos/abstractusinterruptus
- kickscondor 8y ago
  This reminds me of that old slashdot-era wallpaper site that all the Linux geeks used for backgrounds. The patterns were tiling and textured like mineral surfaces. The names were arbitrary combinations of words. Someone help me out here.
  - lelandbatey 8y ago
    A bit of searching and I found a series of backgrounds called PROPAGANDA[0] generated entirely using FOSS software from the early days. They definitely take me back to a different time. That might be what you are thinking of. [0] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_%28desktop_backgrounds%29 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_%28desktop_backgrou...
    - kickscondor 8y ago
      Hey, yeah - these are them! Thankyou very kindly, lelandbately.
coldtea 8y ago
It's not about the heaviness of the content. It's about how easy it is to get some eyeballs and votes, and serve as a conversation starter...
mcphage 8y ago
Why? It’s easy to understand, and easy to appreciate. I agree that there’s not much content, but that also means there’s not much commitment to seeing it and enjoying it.
oseph 8y ago
I agree that this is pretty simple stuff for HN. BUT on that same note, I've actually done something similar but hopefully a bit more organic here: http://mondaysoups.ca/daily/029.html http://mondaysoups.ca/daily/029.html

There is something wrong with the Hacker News algorithm if this kind of simple box drawing algorithm with minimal content gets to second place.

by mikkom 8y ago

There is something wrong with the Hacker News algorithm if this kind of simple box drawing algorithm with minimal content gets to second place.

codingdave 8y ago

It is simple, but all art starts somewhere. Beginning artists in traditional media normally produce simple (dare I say, bad) artwork their first few years. The important question is what they do next - how do they improve it, how do they make it their own unique expression, what do they do with the resulting work? Simple is fine. Starting something new is good. Sharing it is how you get feedback and decide where to go next.

kickscondor 8y ago

I am going to guess that it means there is a thirst for more artist submissions. There is not enough color in the links submitted these days - so the slightest bit of color grabs the attention. I upvoted this because I want more that is in this vein, though I also don’t think its algorithm is worthless - it is good to start somewhere. (Personally, I find it ‘wrong’ that the Equifax article right now is first! Not that it is unworthy - just that I don’t care to read it.)

HammadB 8y ago
If you're eager to find more "creative coding" type works. Going on instagram and using hashtags like #creativecoding are a great way to find amazing work. Also twitter is a great source of absolutely mind-blowing artistic work that leverages technology. I've spent far too much time just browsing all the amazing stuff out there.
- kickscondor 8y ago
  Ok, I did this - this is great, there are some 'neat'/'inspiring' things there. A few other questions for you: * How do I find more hashtags? I would have never found #creativecoding - is it known to be a community or is it just an ad hoc hashtag like #lostinthehashtags (which I just made up - but which has posts!) I guess what I'm saying is - I don't sense that these hashtags are a community - or are they? * As 'neat'/'inspiring' as these are, they are mostly only (very small) images and (very short) clips. I ultimately can't see myself using Instagram or Twitter much because you just kind of skim and can't go deeper. They lack the 'hypertext'. (This is similarly to the OP's trouble with this post just being a simple 'box algorithm' - where do I go for more? * Most of these look like art I've seen on t-shirts or album covers. Dating back even to the seventies. It is still beautiful and remarkable - but I can't help but wonder: Where is innovation happening in tech+art? I will say that I do follow a lot of things happening in vaporwave - any idea what else is happening out there? Thank you for your time, HammadB. I am eager.
  - jcelerier 8y ago
    > is it known to be a community indeed, also look up "new media art". Also, obligatory https://www.openprocessing.org/ https://www.openprocessing.org/ ... and obligatory self-promotion - I work in the field on a sequencer for creative coding : https://ossia.io https://ossia.io
- userbinator 8y ago
  I'm surprised no one has mentioned the demoscene yet, because that is literally the most prominent intersection of programming and art (both in the traditional and programming sense.) Visit pouet.net and watch some demos for inspiration. Some of them have appeared on HN too: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11848097 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11848097 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14164907 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14164907

Jupe 8y ago

How about this: https://www.flickr.com/photos/abstractusinterruptus https://www.flickr.com/photos/abstractusinterruptus

kickscondor 8y ago
This reminds me of that old slashdot-era wallpaper site that all the Linux geeks used for backgrounds. The patterns were tiling and textured like mineral surfaces. The names were arbitrary combinations of words. Someone help me out here.
- lelandbatey 8y ago
  A bit of searching and I found a series of backgrounds called PROPAGANDA[0] generated entirely using FOSS software from the early days. They definitely take me back to a different time. That might be what you are thinking of. [0] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_%28desktop_backgrounds%29 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_%28desktop_backgrou...
  - kickscondor 8y ago
    Hey, yeah - these are them! Thankyou very kindly, lelandbately.

coldtea 8y ago

It's not about the heaviness of the content. It's about how easy it is to get some eyeballs and votes, and serve as a conversation starter...

mcphage 8y ago

Why? It’s easy to understand, and easy to appreciate. I agree that there’s not much content, but that also means there’s not much commitment to seeing it and enjoying it.

oseph 8y ago

I agree that this is pretty simple stuff for HN. BUT on that same note, I've actually done something similar but hopefully a bit more organic here: http://mondaysoups.ca/daily/029.html http://mondaysoups.ca/daily/029.html