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> This it's why we needed GDPR. The courts have been totally unwilling to combat this kind of corporate malpractice It should come as no surprise that the legi
by kodablah 8y ago
> This it's why we needed GDPR. The courts have been totally unwilling to combat this kind of corporate malpractice
It should come as no surprise that the legislative enforcement arm is unwilling to also. I know you dream of laws like the GDPR working, but it doesn't and neither did its predecessor. Instead of asking for new laws, why are you not asking for enforcement of existing ones? And what makes you think a new law will be magically enforced where current ones aren't?
- craftyguy 8y agoWhat current law are you referring to (in the US..), that makes what Equifax did illegal?
- kodablah 8y agoSEC disclosure timeliness requirements since it affects financial outlook at the very least. If they can't even be heavily punished by public institutions for at least that, how can they be expected to punish when given more breakable rules? Or, as the EU erroneously thought, does the US really believe the lack of punishment is due to legal handcuffs instead of political will, resources, and lobbying? More paper will not magically turn handshakes into arrest warrants.
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- icebraining 8y agoI know you dream of laws like the GDPR working, but it doesn't and neither did its predecessor Didn't it? Maybe I'm biased, but I don't remember breaches like Equifax's or Target's in the EU. I also don't remember the records of 154 million EU voters being exposed. According to this report[1], the "U.S. accounted for 728 of the 974 incidents around the globe in the first half of 2016." They do say part of the difference may be the disclosure laws, but is that all? [1] https://blog.gemalto.com/security/2016/09/20/data-breach-statistics-2016-first-half-results/ https://blog.gemalto.com/security/2016/09/20/data-breach-sta...
- kodablah 8y ago> Didn't it? Maybe I'm biased, but I don't remember breaches like Equifax's or Target's in the EU. So if you don't remember it ever happening, what did the laws curb again? I'm talking about the effectiveness of adding laws... going from 0 to 0 demonstrates no effectiveness much less the effectiveness required to overcome the societal cost of compliance. If anything, your argument explains the embedded big business cultural differences and laws like the GDPR added nothing wrt data breach enforcement/prevention.
- rhizome 8y agoThis is some tiger-rock argumentation.
- cevn 8y agoWhat's this mean?
- tptacek 8y agohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSVqLHghLpw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSVqLHghLpw
- kodablah 8y agoRight. I wonder how much the US would pay for this rock I found in Europe? There were no large data breaches while this rock was there. You can't determine the past effectiveness of increased future legislation, especially if it's in an environment with a history of lax enforcement.
- toxik 8y agoI see this self-assured attitude often with users from the US. Do you honestly not think GDPR had any effect? If it only served to remind businesses user privacy is protected by law, then that was an effect. The EU has taken legal action against US companies before, and it has made a difference in this world. Why do you think it won't happen again, apart from your deep-rooted revulsion to mostly all forms of market regulation? This idea that the US is the breadwinner of the world and a paragon for all to strive for is such a tired old misconception born from not-so-subtle nationalism. The US is not a utopia of happy, well-fed people with homes. You got a big army though, that's for sure.
- alfalfasprout 8y agoExcept it did. GDPR sent many companies scrambling to comply and they did. Equifax, as you can imagine, was not on that list.