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I’m of the opinion that identification should be the individual’s choice, ie supplying credentials. When organizations gain the ability to identify without con
by davemp 8y ago
I’m of the opinion that identification should be the individual’s choice, ie supplying credentials.
When organizations gain the ability to identify without consent, the door is opened for some very malicious practices.
- cpt1138 8y agoCan you explain this? I’ve always been of the opinion that some solutions proposed over the years have tried to do this but fail because the trusted entity is unknown a priori. I don’t see how you can invent a trust model that is basically “trust me the user and whatever choices I have made.”
- davemp 8y agoNo trust model is going to be perfect, but this type of solution has already seen widespread success with: drivers licenses, event tickets, username+password, etc.
- bb88 8y agoThe argument for public safety though has been pretty overwhelming. Britain just scored a big win in the novichok poisoning case by being able to trace the movements of Russian operatives using cameras. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/05/world/europe/russia-uk-novichok-skripal.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/05/world/europe/russia-uk-no... This trend will continue as long as the wins are bigger than the abuses.
- tomsthumb 8y agoAs long as the known wins are bigger than the known abuses. There’s also the question of whether people understand and care about potential, or if it would need to happen first.
- lxmorj 8y agoThis is a trap. You can't just say "well the wins are worth it at the moment" and not consider what happens when someone else - possibly with antithetical values to yours - inherits that power.
- bb88 8y agoYour argument is an appeal for more personal liberty. And that's an honorable argument to make. If, however, crime reduces your personal liberty to the point where you are uncomfortable walking outside, then cameras (and facial recognition software) will seem to add more liberty than it takes away. People buy products like Ring and security cameras for this very reason, they want to feel safe. You might say, "Okay, but that's security theater. The real issue is because Donald J Trump, or an unchecked NSA might use them for more nefarious reasons. And it's not even clear they work to reduce crime..." At which point the average person says, "I just want to feel safe at night when I walk the dog. And frankly, the investment in cameras are worth it if they help catch Russian spies..."
- pletnes 8y agoCatching one russian spy? That’s not even worth the hardware cost of the cameras installed in the UK.