Those examples don't prove anything. First off, the http ones would appear different, they would have no lock. And 99.999999% of websites don't have a different

Those examples don't prove anything. First off, the http ones would appear different, they would have no lock. And 99.999999% of websites don't have a different www. and non-www. page. Showing www. for that 1 in a billion site, for that 1 in a million user, is insane.