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The NYC scene seems much more grounded than Silicon Valley. As others have said all the big tech companies are already here but, unlike Silicon Valley, anyone w

The NYC scene seems much more grounded than Silicon Valley. As others have said all the big tech companies are already here but, unlike Silicon Valley, anyone who is anyone in tons of other industries is also in NYC. That keeps the focus more on doing meaningful things with tech vs the tech for tech’s sake pattern that Silicon Valley seems stuck in.

danharaj 8y ago
That's how I feel as a consultant here in NYC. I get whiplash when I go to SF on business.
- devereaux 8y ago
  I'm in NYC too, but I get the opposite feeling when I travel.
gammateam 8y ago
I'm glad to see it is growing. I was in NYC for the first half of the decade and the "grounded" nature of NYC was its pitfall. Its not the lack of 'tech for tech's sake', its the lack of willing backers, the lack of meaningful VCs, the lack of 'pay it forward' mentality, the lack of historical counterculture having any meaningful impact amongst the old world elitists. If that's changing then NYC will offer an unparalleled opportunity that Silicon Valley could have difficulty keeping up with. I still suspect that there are like 3 VC portfolios all named Union Square Ventures that any project has to conform to, and if it doesn't, FUHGET ABOUT IT
- electricslpnsld 8y ago
  > the lack of historical counterculture having any meaningful impact amongst the old world elitists Hm? In want sense? New York City has spawned numerous countercultural movements. The beats, punk rock, hip hop, all originated in NYC.
  - throwaway080383 8y ago
    I think those all grew organically without the analogue of "VC Money" backing them.
    - gammateam 8y ago
      NYC: still old world elites and I like it this observation still prevents creating what works about Silicon Valley
  - pesmhey 8y ago
    I mean, it's almost like arguing with someone whether or not the sky is blue. The idea the NYC has no meaningful counterculture is not only wrong, but ridiculously wrong at that. The Stonewall riots happened there for Christ's sake. It'd be sort of petulant to dismiss the cultural movements that have come out of NYC. Actually, you'd have to be really,I mean, unimaginably out-of-touch with reality to dismiss NYC counterculture.
    - gammateam 8y ago
      It simply didn't contribute to its broader/VC/tech industries like how Silicon Valley was shaped, rendering this entire semantically debate moot. Every place that wants to be the next silicon valley, or Silicon "lesser geographical/architectural structure", simply can't do it without the generational culture to support it.
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danharaj 8y ago

That's how I feel as a consultant here in NYC. I get whiplash when I go to SF on business.

devereaux 8y ago
I'm in NYC too, but I get the opposite feeling when I travel.

gammateam 8y ago

I'm glad to see it is growing. I was in NYC for the first half of the decade and the "grounded" nature of NYC was its pitfall. Its not the lack of 'tech for tech's sake', its the lack of willing backers, the lack of meaningful VCs, the lack of 'pay it forward' mentality, the lack of historical counterculture having any meaningful impact amongst the old world elitists. If that's changing then NYC will offer an unparalleled opportunity that Silicon Valley could have difficulty keeping up with. I still suspect that there are like 3 VC portfolios all named Union Square Ventures that any project has to conform to, and if it doesn't, FUHGET ABOUT IT

electricslpnsld 8y ago
> the lack of historical counterculture having any meaningful impact amongst the old world elitists Hm? In want sense? New York City has spawned numerous countercultural movements. The beats, punk rock, hip hop, all originated in NYC.
- throwaway080383 8y ago
  I think those all grew organically without the analogue of "VC Money" backing them.
  - gammateam 8y ago
    NYC: still old world elites and I like it this observation still prevents creating what works about Silicon Valley
- pesmhey 8y ago
  I mean, it's almost like arguing with someone whether or not the sky is blue. The idea the NYC has no meaningful counterculture is not only wrong, but ridiculously wrong at that. The Stonewall riots happened there for Christ's sake. It'd be sort of petulant to dismiss the cultural movements that have come out of NYC. Actually, you'd have to be really,I mean, unimaginably out-of-touch with reality to dismiss NYC counterculture.
  - gammateam 8y ago
    It simply didn't contribute to its broader/VC/tech industries like how Silicon Valley was shaped, rendering this entire semantically debate moot. Every place that wants to be the next silicon valley, or Silicon "lesser geographical/architectural structure", simply can't do it without the generational culture to support it.
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