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Honestly, Tesla sounds crazy to me. I have a buddy who's worked at the factory in Fremont on one of the assembly lines. They sound very overworked. Despite get

Honestly, Tesla sounds crazy to me. I have a buddy who's worked at the factory in Fremont on one of the assembly lines. They sound very overworked. Despite getting "overtime" pay, they're basically required to work many days a week, and sometimes crazy shifts, like 10 hours, plus a day on the weekend. Definitely over 40 hours a week.

robertAngst 8y ago
The employees from Engineer to Line worker are worked like dogs. The pay wasnt even impressive.
- pmarreck 8y ago
  > The pay wasn't even impressive. Famous companies that people intrinsically want to work at don't have to offer extrinsic market rates for labor.
  - odyssey7 8y ago
    Alternatively, companies who want to exploit workers can offer lower-than-expected wages, to make sure they end up only with employees who can be talked into going along with bad situations.
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THE_PUN_STOPS 8y ago
A good friend who graduated with me is at Tesla in a factory engineering role. His hours? 6PM-6AM Wednesday-Sunday.
- craftyguy 8y ago
  So a 60 hour work week. That isn't terrible, especially if they are well compensated... Many of us salary employees end up working that much, if not more.
  - THE_PUN_STOPS 8y ago
    They’re salaried and the compensation is good but not good enough in my opinion when you do the per-hour math. IMO, working for free for 20 hours a week is pretty terrible.
    - craftyguy 8y ago
      Why do people still think the work week is 40 hours, and no more? Sure, it's the legal definition of a "full time, non-exempt employee", but are there really that many high paying, high skill jobs that are like "well, you put in 40 hours this week, see you next calendar week! :D". I can't think of any.
SECProto 8y ago
My first engineering job out of university was 12 hours a day, 7 days a week, 3 weeks on 1 week off. And it wasn't even a endeavour I particularly believed in, and it wasnt in a location I particularly wanted to live. I don't regret the time I spent there, and would certainly consider doing something similar again if it was somewhere I wanted to live and something I wanted to do. With a company like Tesla, there is so much talk about the work hours, I don't think anyone can honestly take the job and be surprised they end up working more than 40 hours a week.
beart 8y ago
This sounds pretty similar to every other auto manufacturing job I've come across. They all work long hours. That's part of the reason why they are often highly sought after jobs. An opportunity to make a lot of money with very relatively little skill or training, the trade off being personal time.
coatmatter 8y ago
The whole motor industry is quite crazy if anyone stops to think about it. Changing the fuels and technologies used still doesn't remove much of the irrational craziness that's inherent. Going further, building multilayered tunnels right throughout LA as a 'best solution' to excessive single occupancy vehicle use is also not all that rational.

robertAngst 8y ago

The employees from Engineer to Line worker are worked like dogs. The pay wasnt even impressive.

pmarreck 8y ago
> The pay wasn't even impressive. Famous companies that people intrinsically want to work at don't have to offer extrinsic market rates for labor.
- odyssey7 8y ago
  Alternatively, companies who want to exploit workers can offer lower-than-expected wages, to make sure they end up only with employees who can be talked into going along with bad situations.

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THE_PUN_STOPS 8y ago

A good friend who graduated with me is at Tesla in a factory engineering role. His hours? 6PM-6AM Wednesday-Sunday.

craftyguy 8y ago
So a 60 hour work week. That isn't terrible, especially if they are well compensated... Many of us salary employees end up working that much, if not more.
- THE_PUN_STOPS 8y ago
  They’re salaried and the compensation is good but not good enough in my opinion when you do the per-hour math. IMO, working for free for 20 hours a week is pretty terrible.
  - craftyguy 8y ago
    Why do people still think the work week is 40 hours, and no more? Sure, it's the legal definition of a "full time, non-exempt employee", but are there really that many high paying, high skill jobs that are like "well, you put in 40 hours this week, see you next calendar week! :D". I can't think of any.

SECProto 8y ago

My first engineering job out of university was 12 hours a day, 7 days a week, 3 weeks on 1 week off. And it wasn't even a endeavour I particularly believed in, and it wasnt in a location I particularly wanted to live. I don't regret the time I spent there, and would certainly consider doing something similar again if it was somewhere I wanted to live and something I wanted to do. With a company like Tesla, there is so much talk about the work hours, I don't think anyone can honestly take the job and be surprised they end up working more than 40 hours a week.

beart 8y ago

This sounds pretty similar to every other auto manufacturing job I've come across. They all work long hours. That's part of the reason why they are often highly sought after jobs. An opportunity to make a lot of money with very relatively little skill or training, the trade off being personal time.

coatmatter 8y ago

The whole motor industry is quite crazy if anyone stops to think about it. Changing the fuels and technologies used still doesn't remove much of the irrational craziness that's inherent. Going further, building multilayered tunnels right throughout LA as a 'best solution' to excessive single occupancy vehicle use is also not all that rational.