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Sounds like you never learned how to do anything outside of coding. There is more to succeeding in life than being able to code.

by jriot 8y ago

gigel82 8y ago
Have you looked at the GitHub profile? Don't want to be harsh, but it looks like he never really learned how to code either, which is kind-of sad. I'm not a stickler for education, but there's something to be said for at least finishing highschool; you learn how to learn if nothing else.
- jriot 8y ago
  I did not, only read through the Medium article/blog. As you alluded to, high school provides more than just standard book education. Those 4 years you learn how to deal with people, relationships, politics of an organization, how problems affecting more than a few people are solved/planned, how to deal with rejection etc... These are skills he now needs to learn in the real world that carry greater risks outside of learning them in high school.
- duiker101 8y ago
  I gave a quick look only because I'm on mobile but I'm really curious about what makes you say that. He might not be incredible but your comment makes it seem like he knows absolutely nothing which I wouldn't say it's true
- projektir 8y ago
  I'm not sure how to efficiently parse a GitHub profile but in what way does it indicate he never learned how to code?
  - gigel82 8y ago
    Most of the projects are straight forks with no additions, or puerile flatline dumps of boilerplate - generated structures with little to no meat. I don't want to put anyone down, he's obviously in a tough situation, but I maybe would've left the GitHub link out, it doesn't add anything (positive) to the story.
    - projektir 8y ago
      The GitHub may be insufficient evidence that he is a good coder, but it doesn't strike me as evidence that he "never learned to code", yet that is what you said, and that is the impression people will be left with if they do not check for themselves. I looked at the GitHub expecting to genuinely find actual examples of really bad code due to your statement, but that is not what I found, mostly I found a pretty empty GitHub, which is not too interesting, I know lots of perfectly good coders with empty GitHubs or no GitHubs at all. > maybe would've left the GitHub link out, it doesn't add anything (positive) to the story That is another matter, unrelated to you saying they "never learned to code" without, what it looks like, any evidence.
- CM30 8y ago
  It's a bit basic yes, but I wouldn't say it showed he never learned to code or what not. I mean, not everyone posts all their work on GitHub or similar services, and quite a few developers don't even have a portfolio of any kind. Someone's GitHub presence isn't necessarily a good judge of their skill as a developer, nor how much experience they've had in general.
- yesbabyyes 8y ago
  Did we look at the same GitHub profile? I see a Conway's Game of Life implementation in Python [1], a few (admittedly simple) games in Python and Lua, a web framework written in Lua [2], a web app in Lua using said framework [3], and a host of other experiments in JS, Ruby and PHP. IMO this is the work of someone who could become a great asset to any software development team. [1]: https://github.com/jessehorne/life https://github.com/jessehorne/life [2]: https://github.com/jessehorne/kolba https://github.com/jessehorne/kolba [3]: https://github.com/jessehorne/glance https://github.com/jessehorne/glance
astura 8y ago
Soft skills are almost as important as coding skill for a developer.
- fein 8y ago
  I wouldn't call being able to take care of yourself a soft skill. Laundry, cooking, finance; all hard skills required to survive. Reading this whole thread, I really don't get it. This guy has to have fucked up a lot to get to this point, and noen of those details were evaluated in the article. My own grandmother is a hardcore christian, and I am an "atheist". At no point in my life have I ever burned so many bridges as to not be able to stay with her if things got bad enough. It reads like the childish mind of some edgy early 2000s 15 year old trying to rationalize why their family is pissed at them. I read through this whole thing and all I could think of was that this guy is absolutely pathetic for wasting so many opportunities. Sometimes you just deserve the shit you get.
  - astura 8y ago
    I meant more "getting along with others" (for lack of a better term) than cooking and cleaning. If you want to be a developer you need to be able to work on a team, work with bosses, and even sometimes work with clients. He seems to have, uhhhh..., burned every bridge he ever had; yet, apparently has absolutely no idea what he's doing to turn everyone else away! Don't want to be too harsh, but that's what is written between the lines. He desperately needs social skills.

Sounds like you never learned how to do anything outside of coding. There is more to succeeding in life than being able to code.

by jriot 8y ago

Sounds like you never learned how to do anything outside of coding. There is more to succeeding in life than being able to code.

gigel82 8y ago

Have you looked at the GitHub profile? Don't want to be harsh, but it looks like he never really learned how to code either, which is kind-of sad. I'm not a stickler for education, but there's something to be said for at least finishing highschool; you learn how to learn if nothing else.

jriot 8y ago
I did not, only read through the Medium article/blog. As you alluded to, high school provides more than just standard book education. Those 4 years you learn how to deal with people, relationships, politics of an organization, how problems affecting more than a few people are solved/planned, how to deal with rejection etc... These are skills he now needs to learn in the real world that carry greater risks outside of learning them in high school.
duiker101 8y ago
I gave a quick look only because I'm on mobile but I'm really curious about what makes you say that. He might not be incredible but your comment makes it seem like he knows absolutely nothing which I wouldn't say it's true
projektir 8y ago
I'm not sure how to efficiently parse a GitHub profile but in what way does it indicate he never learned how to code?
- gigel82 8y ago
  Most of the projects are straight forks with no additions, or puerile flatline dumps of boilerplate - generated structures with little to no meat. I don't want to put anyone down, he's obviously in a tough situation, but I maybe would've left the GitHub link out, it doesn't add anything (positive) to the story.
  - projektir 8y ago
    The GitHub may be insufficient evidence that he is a good coder, but it doesn't strike me as evidence that he "never learned to code", yet that is what you said, and that is the impression people will be left with if they do not check for themselves. I looked at the GitHub expecting to genuinely find actual examples of really bad code due to your statement, but that is not what I found, mostly I found a pretty empty GitHub, which is not too interesting, I know lots of perfectly good coders with empty GitHubs or no GitHubs at all. > maybe would've left the GitHub link out, it doesn't add anything (positive) to the story That is another matter, unrelated to you saying they "never learned to code" without, what it looks like, any evidence.
CM30 8y ago
It's a bit basic yes, but I wouldn't say it showed he never learned to code or what not. I mean, not everyone posts all their work on GitHub or similar services, and quite a few developers don't even have a portfolio of any kind. Someone's GitHub presence isn't necessarily a good judge of their skill as a developer, nor how much experience they've had in general.
yesbabyyes 8y ago
Did we look at the same GitHub profile? I see a Conway's Game of Life implementation in Python [1], a few (admittedly simple) games in Python and Lua, a web framework written in Lua [2], a web app in Lua using said framework [3], and a host of other experiments in JS, Ruby and PHP. IMO this is the work of someone who could become a great asset to any software development team. [1]: https://github.com/jessehorne/life https://github.com/jessehorne/life [2]: https://github.com/jessehorne/kolba https://github.com/jessehorne/kolba [3]: https://github.com/jessehorne/glance https://github.com/jessehorne/glance

astura 8y ago

Soft skills are almost as important as coding skill for a developer.

fein 8y ago
I wouldn't call being able to take care of yourself a soft skill. Laundry, cooking, finance; all hard skills required to survive. Reading this whole thread, I really don't get it. This guy has to have fucked up a lot to get to this point, and noen of those details were evaluated in the article. My own grandmother is a hardcore christian, and I am an "atheist". At no point in my life have I ever burned so many bridges as to not be able to stay with her if things got bad enough. It reads like the childish mind of some edgy early 2000s 15 year old trying to rationalize why their family is pissed at them. I read through this whole thing and all I could think of was that this guy is absolutely pathetic for wasting so many opportunities. Sometimes you just deserve the shit you get.
- astura 8y ago
  I meant more "getting along with others" (for lack of a better term) than cooking and cleaning. If you want to be a developer you need to be able to work on a team, work with bosses, and even sometimes work with clients. He seems to have, uhhhh..., burned every bridge he ever had; yet, apparently has absolutely no idea what he's doing to turn everyone else away! Don't want to be too harsh, but that's what is written between the lines. He desperately needs social skills.