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eh, whatever, it's legal in CA. if a bunch of people in new york want to freak out about it, let them. also the execs that quit are simultaneously useless and

by a-dub 8y ago

eh, whatever, it's legal in CA. if a bunch of people in new york want to freak out about it, let them. also the execs that quit are simultaneously useless and easily replaced MBA types. call me when engineering or manufacturing brass leave. i could care less about communications officers, HR and accounting leadership.

compcoffee 8y ago
>also the execs that quit are simultaneously useless and easily replaced MBA types. The Chief Accounting Officer (second one in less than a year) is a "useless MBA type"? Meanwhile, company burns billions. Paging "Shit HN says".
- cududa 8y ago
  The chief accounting officer has nothing to do with that. That'd be the CFO+COO (which Tesla doesn't have)+CEO. CAO is a common position when you have a sprawling, complex supply chain and contractor structure (which Tesla does have).
  - compcoffee 8y ago
    >That'd be the CFO+COO (which Tesla doesn't have)+CEO. Yeah, you're right, the CAO has nothing to do with accounting. I also loved "talk to me when it's engineers!" Since 2017: Doug Field, head engineer, gone. Matthew Schwall, director of field performance engineering, gone. Jon Wagner, director of battery engineering, gone. Kurt Kelty, director of battery technology, gone. Chris Lattner, vice president of autopilot software, gone. Satish Jeyachandran, director of hardware engineering, gone. David Nistér, vice president of autopilot vision, gone. So many people here turning a blind eye, much like they did on Theranos.
rhapsodic 8y ago
> eh, whatever, it's legal in CA But it's a federal crime in the USA. So maybe it wasn't a smart thing for a CEO of a publicly traded company to do on camera. https://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/federal-marijuana-laws.html https://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/federal-marij...
- jandrese 8y ago
  Do you think he is going to be arrested by the feds? That would be an incredible media circus. It's not like he's in Oklahoma where they could send him to jail for 12 years for that joint.
  - rhapsodic 8y ago
    > Do you think he is going to be arrested by the feds?. No. But I still think it was an egregious error in judgment. Do you disagree?
    - binaryblitz 8y ago
      Yes. The federal government isn't going to go after individuals for smoking pot. The laws are outdated and will be changed once it makes it's way to more states and we don't have an ignorant orange muppet as a leader. (FWIW, I don't smoke.)
      - rhapsodic 8y ago
        > Yes. The federal government isn't going to go after individuals for smoking pot. If you think the only possible negative consequence of that act is federal prosecution, you are astoundingly ignorant of how things work in the United States. Here are a few possible consequences off the top of my head: 1. It could be used by corporate boards as grounds for his removal as a corporate officer. Or it could be used as ammunition in a shareholders' revolt. 2. It can be used as a grounds for denying his companies federal licensure for commercial activities that require it. 3. Those who politically oppose the massive federal subsidies his companies receive (and presumably want to receive more of) can demagogue this issue to mobilize public opinion against him. > The laws are outdated and will be changed once it makes it's way to more states and we don't have an ignorant orange muppet as a leader. Could you please keep this sort of puerile garbage off of HN?
        sterlind 8y ago
        Not to mention that Musk works closely with the DoD in his SpaceX contracts, and therefore has a top-secret security clearance for launching the X-37B. At least for mortals, doing scheduled drugs may revoke your clearance, regardless of whether it's legal according to state law.
dragonwriter 8y ago
> eh, whatever, it's legal in CA No, it's not. It's not illegal under CA state law, but it is definitely illegal in California, as the federal prohibition isn't conditioned on he existence of matching state prohibition.
sonnyblarney 8y ago
"the execs that quit are simultaneously useless and easily replaced MBA types. call me when engineering or manufacturing brass leave. " Maybe you've never interfaced at the executive level?

by a-dub 8y ago

compcoffee 8y ago

>also the execs that quit are simultaneously useless and easily replaced MBA types. The Chief Accounting Officer (second one in less than a year) is a "useless MBA type"? Meanwhile, company burns billions. Paging "Shit HN says".

cududa 8y ago
The chief accounting officer has nothing to do with that. That'd be the CFO+COO (which Tesla doesn't have)+CEO. CAO is a common position when you have a sprawling, complex supply chain and contractor structure (which Tesla does have).
- compcoffee 8y ago
  >That'd be the CFO+COO (which Tesla doesn't have)+CEO. Yeah, you're right, the CAO has nothing to do with accounting. I also loved "talk to me when it's engineers!" Since 2017: Doug Field, head engineer, gone. Matthew Schwall, director of field performance engineering, gone. Jon Wagner, director of battery engineering, gone. Kurt Kelty, director of battery technology, gone. Chris Lattner, vice president of autopilot software, gone. Satish Jeyachandran, director of hardware engineering, gone. David Nistér, vice president of autopilot vision, gone. So many people here turning a blind eye, much like they did on Theranos.

rhapsodic 8y ago

> eh, whatever, it's legal in CA But it's a federal crime in the USA. So maybe it wasn't a smart thing for a CEO of a publicly traded company to do on camera. https://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/federal-marijuana-laws.html https://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/federal-marij...

jandrese 8y ago
Do you think he is going to be arrested by the feds? That would be an incredible media circus. It's not like he's in Oklahoma where they could send him to jail for 12 years for that joint.
- rhapsodic 8y ago
  > Do you think he is going to be arrested by the feds?. No. But I still think it was an egregious error in judgment. Do you disagree?
  - binaryblitz 8y ago
    Yes. The federal government isn't going to go after individuals for smoking pot. The laws are outdated and will be changed once it makes it's way to more states and we don't have an ignorant orange muppet as a leader. (FWIW, I don't smoke.)
    - rhapsodic 8y ago
      > Yes. The federal government isn't going to go after individuals for smoking pot. If you think the only possible negative consequence of that act is federal prosecution, you are astoundingly ignorant of how things work in the United States. Here are a few possible consequences off the top of my head: 1. It could be used by corporate boards as grounds for his removal as a corporate officer. Or it could be used as ammunition in a shareholders' revolt. 2. It can be used as a grounds for denying his companies federal licensure for commercial activities that require it. 3. Those who politically oppose the massive federal subsidies his companies receive (and presumably want to receive more of) can demagogue this issue to mobilize public opinion against him. > The laws are outdated and will be changed once it makes it's way to more states and we don't have an ignorant orange muppet as a leader. Could you please keep this sort of puerile garbage off of HN?
      - sterlind 8y ago
        Not to mention that Musk works closely with the DoD in his SpaceX contracts, and therefore has a top-secret security clearance for launching the X-37B. At least for mortals, doing scheduled drugs may revoke your clearance, regardless of whether it's legal according to state law.

dragonwriter 8y ago

> eh, whatever, it's legal in CA No, it's not. It's not illegal under CA state law, but it is definitely illegal in California, as the federal prohibition isn't conditioned on he existence of matching state prohibition.

sonnyblarney 8y ago

"the execs that quit are simultaneously useless and easily replaced MBA types. call me when engineering or manufacturing brass leave. " Maybe you've never interfaced at the executive level?