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> ...to fight against the skyrocketing rents and to open up the space for something better. They lost me right there. If they want to fight skyrocketing rents

> ...to fight against the skyrocketing rents and to open up the space for something better. They lost me right there. If they want to fight skyrocketing rents they should push for more housing. If they wanted the space to be used for something else they should have bought or rented it themselves. Protesting Google does nothing to change these.

blablabla123 8y ago
> They lost me right there. If they want to fight > skyrocketing rents they should push for more housing. If So they aren't in your opinion? > they wanted the space to be used for something else they > should have bought or rented it themselves. How? > Protesting > Google does nothing to change these. Lol, this is pretty much Economics 101. When Google demands more space, so when they indeed move into the whole space, it will get more expensive. Ok, the upcoming snowball effect is much more difficult to understand - you need at least a PhD in Math and CS for that: that extra space needs to be filled with chairs and people of whom some or many move from abroad. (Quite likely also from existing Google offices to keep the Google spirit.) These people create additional demand in the housing market. More over other startups, possibly popular and highly funded ones will follow suit and the same thing repeats, with lower magnitude though.
awild 8y ago
So you're saying that because my neighbor has much more money than I he can behave however he pleases even if the whole neighborhood despises him?
- yock 8y ago
  It isn't illegal to be hated, at least not yet. You seem awfully eager to coerce your neighbors into behaving in a way consistent with your personal values.
  - Apocryphon 8y ago
    Conformity is a means of social cohesion, yes.
    - yock 8y ago
      Why do you value that over your individuality?
      - Apocryphon 8y ago
        Conformity is a rational method that society uses to maintain order. It shouldn't be surprising. That's an objective observation and my own values are irrelevant to it.
    - tomjen3 8y ago
      Conformity leads to authoritarianism, which leads to witch burnings, genocide, and 100 million dead strewn all the way from the Atlantic to the Urals. Nonconformity means you have to deal with people who wear leather vests and have weird tattoos.

blablabla123 8y ago

> They lost me right there. If they want to fight > skyrocketing rents they should push for more housing. If So they aren't in your opinion? > they wanted the space to be used for something else they > should have bought or rented it themselves. How? > Protesting > Google does nothing to change these. Lol, this is pretty much Economics 101. When Google demands more space, so when they indeed move into the whole space, it will get more expensive. Ok, the upcoming snowball effect is much more difficult to understand - you need at least a PhD in Math and CS for that: that extra space needs to be filled with chairs and people of whom some or many move from abroad. (Quite likely also from existing Google offices to keep the Google spirit.) These people create additional demand in the housing market. More over other startups, possibly popular and highly funded ones will follow suit and the same thing repeats, with lower magnitude though.

awild 8y ago

So you're saying that because my neighbor has much more money than I he can behave however he pleases even if the whole neighborhood despises him?

yock 8y ago
It isn't illegal to be hated, at least not yet. You seem awfully eager to coerce your neighbors into behaving in a way consistent with your personal values.
- Apocryphon 8y ago
  Conformity is a means of social cohesion, yes.
  - yock 8y ago
    Why do you value that over your individuality?
    - Apocryphon 8y ago
      Conformity is a rational method that society uses to maintain order. It shouldn't be surprising. That's an objective observation and my own values are irrelevant to it.
  - tomjen3 8y ago
    Conformity leads to authoritarianism, which leads to witch burnings, genocide, and 100 million dead strewn all the way from the Atlantic to the Urals. Nonconformity means you have to deal with people who wear leather vests and have weird tattoos.