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nobody making those arguments is making them in good faith and no amount of evidence will stop them from making it.

• coldtea 8y ago
  Bad faith means not believing what you say ("with the intention of deceiving someone or doing harm"). One could very well imagine (and some of us actually know) people that legitimately believe that the climate change we're through is not man made -- they say it cause they believe it, they don't try to knowingly deceive anyone. It's another thing to say something because you do not trust scientists (including scientific consensus) because e.g. you believe that they extrapolate from incomplete data and not enough understanding, or to prefer this or that fringe researcher to the majority opinion, and another to be in bad faith.
  • specialist 8y ago
    I now believe, but cannot prove, that most people's professed beliefs are not rational, logical, reality-based, sensical. Rather, beliefs appear to be more about identity, virtue signaling, and tribal acceptance. If true, reason is impotent. To change belief systems, one must use psychology, rhetoric, propaganda, evangelism. The lesswrong.com crowd is calling this "belief as attire". I don't know what to call "Popperian beliefs" (true until proven false) vs "aspirational beliefs" (make our own reality). My greatest fear is that my self-image of being a Popperian is actually just aspirational.