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Banning non-electric cars (except for public transport, police, ambulances, etc) in biggest cities is hardly going to have societal costs. You can argue persona

by ajuc 8y ago

Banning non-electric cars (except for public transport, police, ambulances, etc) in biggest cities is hardly going to have societal costs. You can argue personal cars should be banned there altogether. There are many cities where private transport is already restricted in city centers. Public transport is cheaper, more ecological, saves time for everybody in traffic jams. What's the cost? That you have to drive to work or school with other people in same vehicle? You will get used to it. I have to die earlier because of all the shit that's in the air and car industry doesn't care. And that's just the first step, then you can tax internal combustion engines increasingly. As for the car industry - who cares? It's not like we cared about horse industry when cars appeared. Let them adapt or die. Government should protect citizens, not corporations.

anjc 8y ago
> As for the car industry - who cares? We care about industries such as this because they contribute massively to the public purse, provide stability to entire regions via employment, and make products that much of the world relies on right now. > It's not like we cared about horse industry when cars appeared. Horses weren't banned to encourage a car industry to emerge, users gravitated towards cars until eventually horses were superfluous/a burden.
- adrianN 8y ago
  > Horses weren't banned to encourage a car industry to emerge, users gravitated towards cars until eventually horses were superfluous/a burden. That only worked because the people making money from selling horses weren't the same people who developed cars.
- kjksf 8y ago
  Requiring electric cars won't kill car industry. The cars will still be made. They'll still be bought. Making them will still require jobs. You're doubling-down on a false premise that killing ICE cars means killing car industry. Tesla makes only electric cars and employs 46 thousand people. As Tesla shows, Mercedes, BMW, GM, Ford etc. could be making 10x more electric cars today and they would sell if they were any good. So in the interest of keeping our planet fit for human living we should nudge them in the right direction. If company A can't be bothered, then company B will emerge to take its place.
- ajuc 8y ago
  > We care about industries such as this because they contribute massively to the public purse, provide stability to entire regions via employment, and make products that much of the world relies on right now. Most of the world doesn't produce cars. Why should they care? They are still using cars, wasting their lives in traffic jams and dying early because of air pollution. Many of them will have to migrate because of climate change. > Horses weren't banned to encourage a car industry to emerge, users gravitated towards cars until eventually horses were superfluous/a burden. What does it change? Industry died. Societal costs were there. Nobody cared.
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by ajuc 8y ago

anjc 8y ago

> As for the car industry - who cares? We care about industries such as this because they contribute massively to the public purse, provide stability to entire regions via employment, and make products that much of the world relies on right now. > It's not like we cared about horse industry when cars appeared. Horses weren't banned to encourage a car industry to emerge, users gravitated towards cars until eventually horses were superfluous/a burden.

adrianN 8y ago
> Horses weren't banned to encourage a car industry to emerge, users gravitated towards cars until eventually horses were superfluous/a burden. That only worked because the people making money from selling horses weren't the same people who developed cars.
kjksf 8y ago
Requiring electric cars won't kill car industry. The cars will still be made. They'll still be bought. Making them will still require jobs. You're doubling-down on a false premise that killing ICE cars means killing car industry. Tesla makes only electric cars and employs 46 thousand people. As Tesla shows, Mercedes, BMW, GM, Ford etc. could be making 10x more electric cars today and they would sell if they were any good. So in the interest of keeping our planet fit for human living we should nudge them in the right direction. If company A can't be bothered, then company B will emerge to take its place.
ajuc 8y ago
> We care about industries such as this because they contribute massively to the public purse, provide stability to entire regions via employment, and make products that much of the world relies on right now. Most of the world doesn't produce cars. Why should they care? They are still using cars, wasting their lives in traffic jams and dying early because of air pollution. Many of them will have to migrate because of climate change. > Horses weren't banned to encourage a car industry to emerge, users gravitated towards cars until eventually horses were superfluous/a burden. What does it change? Industry died. Societal costs were there. Nobody cared.
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