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I'm on Jio and paying $5 for 84 days. I get 1. Free voice calls 2. 100 SMS/ day 3. 1.5GB High speed data/ day (20+ MBPS)- Post which unlimited @ 64 Kbps 4.
by sgr 8y ago
I'm on Jio and paying $5 for 84 days. I get
1. Free voice calls
2. 100 SMS/ day
3. 1.5GB High speed data/ day (20+ MBPS)- Post which unlimited @ 64 Kbps
4. Subscription to Jio apps like Music/ Movies/ News
The page shows pricing at $5.7, everyone I know has always received a discount voucher for Rs 50.
https://www.jio.com/en-in/4g-plans https://www.jio.com/en-in/4g-plans
- pnenp 8y agoHad to re-read to see 1.5 GB per day. Wow. I used to think we had it good in Austria (10GB for €10 per month). But that is fantastic.
- puranjay 8y agoYou can get a 5GB/day plan for INR 799 (~$11) per month. That's more data than most will use in a single day. That's not all - you also get free access to Jio's music service, movie library, streaming TV, and cloud storage.
- kamaal 8y ago>>That's more data than most will use in a single day. Not to take away anything from your point. But I see plenty of cab drivers watch movies, youtube and use other services like Google maps. But there are other inspiring stories. A few months back I saw a video of street flute seller who learned to play the flute through the internet. Here is one story of a Coolie who prepared for civil services exams using internet: https://www.deccanchronicle.com/nation/current-affairs/080518/kerala-coolie-uses-free-railway-wifi-to-prepare-for-civil-services.html https://www.deccanchronicle.com/nation/current-affairs/08051... You will see plenty of stories where people are using internet to do something of value.
- dingaling 8y agoIn the UK I have do all that on a a VDSL connection capped to 120GB per month and at four times the price.
- vertex-four 8y agoWhy did you choose a capped VDSL connection, then? Unlike the US, we have real uncapped plans. As for price... go visit India and see if you can work out why people might not be able to pay as much for services, and why it might be possible to provide those services cheaper. Hint - people don’t get paid as much.
- xaranke 8y agoThat's only part of the story, India greatly benefits from population density in urban areas.
- sigi45 8y agoI got more in Iran than in Germany as well but in Germany I can use it while in Iran it was flaky censored and slow.
- TomK32 8y agoAlso living in austria, paying on €7 for my 10GB per MONTH.
- virtualwhys 8y agoIn Mexico with a Telcel pre-paid plan the max I can get is 5GB/month for 500 pesos (around $25 USD). In India last year it was difficult as a foreigner to get Jio, so went with a couple of other providers (Airtel and Vodophone) -- not expensive at all, but coverage was dicey up in Rishikesh where I was staying. France was the best wrt to price/data ratio, something like 20 Euros per month with Orange got me 40GB, that was really nice to have away from any big cities (Capbreton).
- proginthebox 8y agoIn Europe, the wired broadbands are cheap and fast. In India, there is no hope for cheap and fast wired broadband due to poor planning. Hence the craze for 4G. Also, the rates are marginal. For a long time, the rates induced loss for companies.
- shripadk 8y agoThat's incorrect. Jio has already come out with high speed wired broadband called JioGigaFiber: https://jiofiber.co.in/ https://jiofiber.co.in/. Poles have been erected in my locality and pretty much the entire city. It's way cheaper than the current broadband I'm using (Hathway) and I'll be shifting to it once it launches. Currently it's being rolled out in phases across the country: https://www.mysmartprice.com/gear/2018/09/06/jio-gigafiber-claims-good-response-people-900-cities-experience-high-speed-broadband-report/ https://www.mysmartprice.com/gear/2018/09/06/jio-gigafiber-c... "JIO GIGA FIBER will be the largest greenfield fixed-line broadband rollout anywhere in the world, with rollout happening in 1,100 cities of India simultaneously"
- iamgopal 8y agoJio already has more than 70k+ km of optical fibre layed out to connect all Major city, and more is being layed out per day. They plan to provide 100GB free per month + additional at little cost ( about 5$ per 1000GB ) with provide service such as streaming TV , security systems, landline phone at no extra cost. Installation charges up to your home for optical fibre at about 70 USD.
- baybal2 8y ago100$ for 200GB 4g plan on China Mobile Pakistan
- kamaal 8y agoWhoa! That's expensive. One of the reason for India's economic success in the digital age is awesome and affordable telecommunications infrastructure. You can't run a good start up ecosystem, or even a decent economic ecosystem without these things these days.
- baybal2 8y agoJio is cheaper per Gigabyte, but they wouldn't let you spend all your quota in a day. That's the trick
- kamaal 8y agoThey don't have to :) Seriously, you need to watch like a HD movie everyday to exhaust that kind of quota. Unless you are flush with money and entirely jobless, you won't exactly be spending hours of your time everyday doing this. But cheap plans let you use things like Google Maps, Collaborate over WhatsApp, Send recieve/picture videos etc. That kind of stuff is important for productivity for an economy. Especially for everyday business people this works wonders.
- rohit2412 8y agoBut jio is also cheaper by a factor of 10-20. It is unbelievable pricing, they cannot be subsidizing it by 90%, and they probably don't have 90% margin initially, after including infrastructure costs.
- baybal2 8y agoFactor of 10??? China mobile Pakistan - 200 Gb package for $65 Jio - ~30 gb for $6 a month, you can't humanly consume exactly 1.5 Gb per day. 200 : 65 = ~3.1 30 : 6 = ~5 Best case scenario, 45 : 6 = 7.5 So it is twice as cheap, but not by a factor of 10
- kamaal 8y agoAirtel has similar plans. Ultimately this is game of who runs out of capital first. Jio has a debt of >1,25,000 crore as of now. Airtel has plenty of cash reserves which it is burning to sustain through this. Data is still not cheap. Its being subsidized. For how long, no one knows. Until Airtel or Jio run out of cash, or think they must stop bankrupting themselves in a price war which no one can win. Another important thing is Mukesh Ambani has plans for e-commerce. So I guess he is playing a big game on that end too. Consumers are benefitting though. Bonus statistic: Jio alone is serving more data than all US networks combined.
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- TwiNNatioN 8y agoFor 80$ per month in Canada: - Unlimited call + texts - 6GB per month And this is considered a good deal
- sattoshi 8y agoI found tablet data plans as the only worth while option. 3GB/month for 15$
- akfanta 8y ago> And this is considered a good deal No it's not. There are tons of cheaper plans out there from cheaper carriers like Public Mobile/Koodo/Fido and etc. You just have to look up for them. I used to pay 40 for 4GB/month and now I am at 12GB/month for 55. Still not cheap, but not as bad as what you are saying.
- xfer 8y agoI used to live near vancouver area, Fido/Koodo don't have good coverage, my university in Burnaby had 0 coverage for these networks.
- colmvp 8y agoPractically every product/service I can think of is more expensive here than other countries, namely the U.S. Yet the wages aren't exactly higher than other developed countries like the U.S. I don't really get it.
- krisroadruck 8y agofewer people is probably the issue, fewer people to spread the cost of R&D or infrastructure onto = higher cost per person. Just a guess though.
- onetimemanytime 8y agoGreat but let's see how the pricing holds...he's well funded to keep killing the competition for quite a while. Then, you'll see his real intentions
- iamgopal 8y agoThe real intention is to earn by selling data centre bandwidth to internet applications provider such as Google and Facebook when India government make it compulsory for them to have indian user data inside Indian border, this is the direction where both Jio and government are slowly moving, if you read recent news on indian news sites and read between the line.
- kayuri 8y agoIn Russia for ~$7: - Unlimited high speed data (4g) - 500 sms per month - 500 minutes And you can probably get a better deal as well.
- k__ 8y agoWe don't uave unlimited mobile data in Germany. I think I pay 20€ for 3GB per month.
- lexs 8y agoThat sounds like you have a O2 Boost contract which is theoretically "unlimited" you just get throttled to ~60kbits after the cap
- k__ 8y agoI have Fyve. Yes, it's just that I don't get nearlY 60kbits when it's throttled
- westpfelia 8y agoDoesnt aldi sell unlimited sims for like 13 euro? I've lived in Hamburg now for 7 months but still use Google Fi since its also very cheap and has yet to not work in any country I go to. But I always thought you could get something SUPER cheap in Aldi.
- k__ 8y agoThey have a starter set for 13€ that includes sim card and 10€ credit. They also have an XL flat rate which includes 5,5GB LTE that costs 15€/month. So you pay like 18€ in the first month and then 15€ in the following months. This isn't bad, but I don't get O² net where I live, so I can only use Vodafone based offerings.
- mmsimanga 8y agoI am green with envy. South Africa, data is so expensive I literally only check my WhatsApp messages when using cellular networks. Everything else I do when I connect to ADSL backed WiFi connection. Here are two deals being advertised on Vodacom (vodafone), the largest cellular network in SA. Per month. (Yes it is MB not GB). $35 400 Minutes 900MB 400 SMSs $50 600 Minutes 1200MB 600 SMSs Note: Rand has dropped from US$1 = 13 to 15 in the last day. I divided ZAR price by 14. https://www.vodacom.co.za/vodacom/shopping/plans/plans https://www.vodacom.co.za/vodacom/shopping/plans/plans
- tkmunzwa 8y agoYou can get an LTE data-only SIM capped to 1GB for $5/mo (ZAR 67) from Axxess[1]. Granted - it's not unlimited and doesn't include calls and SMS, but it's much better deal than Vodacom - for data. 1. https://www.axxess.co.za/mobile/data https://www.axxess.co.za/mobile/data
- iamgopal 8y agoThe same Vodafone forced to change all their plan to match that to Jio. I'm using same 5$ for 2GB per day, 84 day plan that Jio provide on Vodafone.
- HeadsUpHigh 8y agoAre you f@cking kidding me? There is literally no excuse for companies to charge us the way they do in the west at this point.
- jeffbax 8y agoUntil you realize what labor costs are (or deployment density is) in the West compared to those countries? Also, price is a function of what the return value and need to have capital to invest with, not just the minimum cost to operate once things are set in place.
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- rayiner 8y agoLeaving aside the fact that Jio seems to be an Uber-like play and the prices aren’t sustainable, there are several other problems with your argument. In the west, the cost of building and maintaining telecom networks is dominated by labor costs. Jio is paying Indian wages to lay and splice backhaul fiber, or to fix a downed line, not US or German wages. And even in the US or Germany, this isn’t minimum wage work—it requires skilled, often unionized labor. Another big expensive for a cellular provider is tower leases. Jio is paying for leases based on Indian property prices. Jio is paying Indian wages for network operations engineers. Etc. All else being equal, the cellular equipment will cost the same, but that’s not equal either. Jio is deploying LTE a decade into its lifecycle. Western carriers deployed LTE when it came out, when equipment was far more expensive, and now are moving onto 5G. It’s clear Jio is also skimping on backhaul capacity, which is another huge expense. Telecom infrastructure is like any other infrastructure—vastly more expensive to build in the west, and in the US in particular. New Dehli’s new subway sections were built for about $70 million per km. Typical in Europe is $200-500 million. New York spent $1.7 billion per km on its newest subway sections.
- kamaal 8y ago>>All else being equal, the cellular equipment will cost the same I'm not sure where I read this. But I remember reading several years back, Airtel doesn't buy telecom equipment, it actually leases it, and pays for it as it goes. Which is why the prices were so low even for a new tech rollout like 4G. Not sure if Jio has the same model. >>Telecom infrastructure is like any other infrastructure—vastly more expensive to build in the west Apart from land acquisition costs. India doesn't buy TBMs(Tunnel Boring Machines), from what I know. TBM's are a very capital expensive investment. But pace of building things is very slow in India compared to any such project in the west. Having said that India does do frugal engineering well.
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- throwawayperson 8y agoI heard the service is cheap but quality is bad?
- iamgopal 8y agoThey forced all provider to match the price. That is the real benefit for someone who didn't wanted to change.
- mundu_wa_hinya 8y agoIn Kenya on Airtel, I pay $10 per month for 6gb data, 400 minutes and 2000 SMS. The unused balance gets rolled over into the next month. Oh, and there are no tethering limits. For home use, I pay $50 for unlimited 25mbit fibre to the home