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I have the joy of living in a community with FTTH and a 1Gbps symmetrical connection for < $100 / month. I have the pain of that connection requiring an additi

I have the joy of living in a community with FTTH and a 1Gbps symmetrical connection for < $100 / month. I have the pain of that connection requiring an additional $10 / month just so I can get 1 (or 4, same price) static IPv4 address which is apparently “required” for me to get IPv6. After using a HE.net tunnel for a few weeks, the slowdowns induced led me back to IPv4-only world. So even in an advanced situation, you might still be stuck with IPv4 because of very silly reasons.

p1mrx 8y ago
The problem here is not that HE.net tunnels require a static IPv4 address, it's that your ISP won't connect you to the whole Internet. Tunnels are garbage. You should either switch ISPs, or complain and wait.
- lukeqsee 8y ago
  > The problem here is not that HE.net tunnels require a static IPv4 address, it's that your ISP won't connect you to the whole Internet. This, definitely. To be clear, I used an HE.net tunnel after I was told of their policy. The tunnel works great with dynamic IPs if you also link up their endpoint to update your tunnel every time your IP changes.
- vetinari 8y ago
  > Tunnels are garbage. You should either switch ISPs, or complain and wait. While the HE tunnel is somewhat limited (does it peak at 50 Mbps?), I find it's implementation way better than some ISPs that provide native IPv6. HEnet at least provides more than single /64, and does not force a specific, limited router on you.
  - lukeqsee 8y ago
    > does it peak at 50 Mbps? I'm not certain about speed, but I did experience quite high latency during peak local traffic times (which went away when disabling IPv6).
    - dfox 8y ago
      In my experience that depends on what is the v4 path between you and HE's PoP and how good is you v4 ISP in regards to peering agreements. In most places where I used HE tunnels the latency through the tunnel was actually better for vast majority of sites I care about (which is simply effect of HE having global network and huge amount of peering partners).
- pixl97 8y ago
  > You should either switch ISPs Hahahah, you silly Europeans and your options. In the US we have the options of bad or slow!
slaymaker1907 8y ago
It’s stupid that they require a static IP. However, the cost might be somewhat justified since IP addresses are block allocated. However, $10 per month seems very high, especially if it is for a static IPv6 address for which there is no shortage nor will there be in many lifetimes.
- lukeqsee 8y ago
  It's quite odd (and pricey). I asked about just IPv6 (with dynamic IPv4), and they said that wasn't an option at all. /shrug I'm currently looking into a cheap FreeBSD VPS <-IPv6 tunnel-> my EdgeOS Router but I'm having trouble getting that working fully. I'm sure I'll get it eventually. :)

p1mrx 8y ago

The problem here is not that HE.net tunnels require a static IPv4 address, it's that your ISP won't connect you to the whole Internet. Tunnels are garbage. You should either switch ISPs, or complain and wait.

lukeqsee 8y ago
> The problem here is not that HE.net tunnels require a static IPv4 address, it's that your ISP won't connect you to the whole Internet. This, definitely. To be clear, I used an HE.net tunnel after I was told of their policy. The tunnel works great with dynamic IPs if you also link up their endpoint to update your tunnel every time your IP changes.
vetinari 8y ago
> Tunnels are garbage. You should either switch ISPs, or complain and wait. While the HE tunnel is somewhat limited (does it peak at 50 Mbps?), I find it's implementation way better than some ISPs that provide native IPv6. HEnet at least provides more than single /64, and does not force a specific, limited router on you.
- lukeqsee 8y ago
  > does it peak at 50 Mbps? I'm not certain about speed, but I did experience quite high latency during peak local traffic times (which went away when disabling IPv6).
  - dfox 8y ago
    In my experience that depends on what is the v4 path between you and HE's PoP and how good is you v4 ISP in regards to peering agreements. In most places where I used HE tunnels the latency through the tunnel was actually better for vast majority of sites I care about (which is simply effect of HE having global network and huge amount of peering partners).
pixl97 8y ago
> You should either switch ISPs Hahahah, you silly Europeans and your options. In the US we have the options of bad or slow!

slaymaker1907 8y ago

It’s stupid that they require a static IP. However, the cost might be somewhat justified since IP addresses are block allocated. However, $10 per month seems very high, especially if it is for a static IPv6 address for which there is no shortage nor will there be in many lifetimes.

lukeqsee 8y ago
It's quite odd (and pricey). I asked about just IPv6 (with dynamic IPv4), and they said that wasn't an option at all. /shrug I'm currently looking into a cheap FreeBSD VPS <-IPv6 tunnel-> my EdgeOS Router but I'm having trouble getting that working fully. I'm sure I'll get it eventually. :)