> most of America doesn't have any way of getting to jobs without one Two things: 1. That's patently false. Most trips in vehicles are between 1 and 10 miles

> most of America doesn't have any way of getting to jobs without one Two things: 1. That's patently false. Most trips in vehicles are between 1 and 10 miles in distance. Anyone without serious health problems can do that on a bicycle quite easily. 2. You don't need a car loan to own a car. > most people need fundamental nutrients from vegetables just to be able to survive, these vegetables tend to be more expensive than less healthy things My statement was about people who were broke and/or in debt. And it's not a 100% meal plan, but rice and beans is a good cheap staple food. You can add in cheap produce, too. The crux of the point is: if you're in debt and spending more than ~$1 per meal, you've got an easy way to cut costs. > internet access gates opportunity in American and for many people their cell phone (which they cannot afford to pay for up front and therefore must lease) and its data plan is there only gateway to the rest of the world Libraries have free internet and computers. And for cell service, using an MVNO, you can spend ~$30 and get 1GB of data, 100 mins of talk time, 100 text messages. (see Ting.com for example) >any right to a Gatorade after shooting hoops at your dilapidated public park on a hot day, any right to 30 mins of entertainment after working your mind numbing job that drains of you all life Are you serious? Getting out of debt is infinitely more important than having a Gatorade or watching Netflix. Especially when there are obvious free alternatives. Streaming Netflix hasn't been around a decade, and it's now "surrendering basic humanity" to go without? That's a pretty fragile position to take.