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Even if Facebook actually wanted to change, intended to change and put time, money, and talent to the task this would still be a serious uphill climb. The idea
by UpshotKnothole 8y ago
Even if Facebook actually wanted to change, intended to change and put time, money, and talent to the task this would still be a serious uphill climb. The idea that anyone could rehabilitate their image when they have no such commitment is laughable. Does anyone seriously think what this really isn’t just crisis mangement? Every quarter that FB can stave off inevitable backlash and regulation is money in their pocket, even if it’s only a decaying orbit. Like the tobacco industry in its day, delay delay delay because thst delay is profitable. If you can’t make your product “healthy” without throwing out your product, this is how you act.
- jliptzin 8y agoFacebook is the cigarette of our generation
- astrodust 8y agoIt's already causing a cancer of the mind.
- opportune 8y agosmoking:respiratory system :: social media:mental health
- tj-teej 8y agoAll due respect, smoke causes cancer, images don't cause mental health problems. If cigarettes weren't addictive they'd still be REALLY bad for you. The problem with Facebook (or current Social Media) is that it IS addictive, and therefore bad, if it wasn't addictive it wouldn't necessarily be bad for you.
- GauntletWizard 8y agoI disagree. I think there are a large number of mental health problems that are directly attributable to images you see and words you read -most notably depression, but I think anorexia is the case study here. I don't think that the people who've contracted it through social media weren't already at risk, but the availability of models and pro-ana groups that encourage and enable such behavior has profound effect.
- wolco 8y agoTalk to child exploitation workers who have nervous breakdowns over the images they see. Images do cause mental health issues.
- tj-teej 8y agoThat’s completely true, I wasn’t clear in my first post, I meant images alone do not necessarily cause harm, whereas a cigarette does necessarily cause harm. You’re completely right that there are images which can cause harm
- bg4 8y ago> images don't cause mental health problems This is categorically false.
- artursapek 8y agoThe health problems caused by smoking can be easily visualized as a pair of black lungs. Social media is harmful in a more invisible way.
- collyw 8y agoHere is just one article. Have a google, there are plenty. https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/may/19/popular-social-media-sites-harm-young-peoples-mental-health https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/may/19/popular-soci...
- PacifyFish 8y agoThere's no healthy way to use cigarettes, plenty of people manage to use Facebook without freaking out about it. The Facebook == cigarettes claim is disingenuous.
- owens99 8y agoIs your statement correct? People can smoke for decades without any major consequence. What is the long term effect of Facebook on individuals and society?
- ekianjo 8y agowhat is healthy about sharing your private data with a 3rd party you cannot trust with anything? If anything thats irresponsible.
- astrodust 8y agoYou can't use Facebook without being damaged by Facebook. It's like lead poisoning. There's no safe level. If you're on Facebook you're on Facebook, and that alone is a problem for a variety of reasons, privacy being just one.
- wilsonnb3 8y agoThis just isn't true. Plenty of people (millions, maybe billions) use Facebook without being damaged by it.
- astrodust 8y agoOne example, of many: Cambridge Analytica scraped information on these people. Are you sure they weren't damaged by that? Millions of people smoke and while they don't drop dead immediately, they are damaged by it. Sometimes damage takes a long time to accumulate.
- starpilot 8y agoPreviously: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14851057 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14851057
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- mehrdadn 8y agoReally? Besides "feeling good" (I assume?), I would be hard pressed to think of a single beneficial thing about cigarette. Facebook certainly has more productive uses than just making you feel good... the question is whether they're worth the downsides.
- save_ferris 8y agoWhat benefit does Facebook provide that no other service can? When I break down the specific features of the FB platform, I'd be hard pressed to think of a single beneficial thing about FB.
- tintor 8y agoNetwork effect. Lots of people still use it.
- akiselev 8y ago> Network effect. Lots of people still use it. Cigarettes are legal pretty much everywhere and easily found at any corner store. Network effect.
- raverbashing 8y agoThat's not the definition of network effect
- mantas 8y agoThe real network effect is all the chit-chat while smoking and making connections when somebody asks for a some/fire.
- collyw 8y agoIts a contact list. And it doesn't go out of date in the same way that phone numbers or email addresses can.
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- tybit 8y agoThe world's rapidly improving if that's true.
- kardos 8y agoWhich generation are you? I thought it was the nicotine vape jobbies that form the cigarettes of our generation
- fouc 8y agoThe internet generation, or generation X (the one right before millennials).
- cecja 8y agoNo, it's our religion, our Opium for the people.