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From what I've experienced hackers seem more adverse to organizing in a trade association than many other professions. Does this line up with others' experienc
by sbov 16y ago
From what I've experienced hackers seem more adverse to organizing in a trade association than many other professions. Does this line up with others' experiences?
For those who think its correct: any idea on why? Is it due to the relatively new nature of the profession? Or maybe we're all more cocky than we should be. Maybe it just comes with the culture. I don't really know.
- lsc 16y agoI think we're fine with organizations... IEEE, LOPSA, SAGE, USENIX, etc... I bet the average sysadmin is a member of more professional organizations than the average public school teacher. The difference is that we use these organizations to make contacts, learn things, etc... basically to become better programmers or sysadmins, to find new mentors, co-workers, employees or employers. Teachers use their union to set wages. I don't think you will find technical people using a union to set wages any time soon just 'cause we have little tolerance for incompetence (and because our market is efficient enough that good people, to some extent, get rewarded. maybe not as well as they should, but there is some correlation between skill and pay.) Most of us are perfectly okay with seeing our less-competent peers getting left in the dust. Really, most of us prefer it that way. This is what the organizers will have to overcome if we are to unionise.
- tomjen3 16y agoI don't know if we are more adverse than many other professions, seeing as I don't know many other professions that well. But I do believe that the hacker mythos doesn't make us more likely to join organizations, since the architypical hacker is the lone, but determined and very skilled person. Exactly the person who would loose the most by creating a trade organization.