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> What is exactly the problem with gimp's UI? Where do I start? - sometimes when I start it it doesn't display toolbox - when I open the toolbox it is (so
by amenod 8y ago
> What is exactly the problem with gimp's UI?
Where do I start?
- sometimes when I start it it doesn't display toolbox
- when I open the toolbox it is (sometimes) a vertical line of buttons (single column) instead of 5 columns that I begged it countless times to be
- setting the size of pencil is completely unintuitive - I usually click in what appears to be input field, only to discover it is not (but instead some meter that sets size to some huge number)
- saving the set size is something that should be done automatically, but I haven't found a convenient way to do it
And that is even without mentioning the whole Save / Export fiasco.
Note that I love Gimp and use it often, but UX is not its strong point.
- jorams 8y ago> setting the size of pencil is completely unintuitive - I usually click in what appears to be input field, only to discover it is not (but instead some meter that sets size to some huge number) It actually is an input field, but it can be interacted with in 3 ways. Clicking on the value focuses it, and allows editing by keyboard. Clicking and dragging in the bottom half of the block allows you to increase or decrease the value by dragging left or right, and the movements you make translate to relatively smaller value changes, so you can be relatively precise. Clicking and dragging in the top half of the block allows you to select a specific value by dragging, and the position of the cursor translates directly to the position of that value on the bar.
- buckminster 8y agoI just tried it. If you click in the top half the value immediately changes, no dragging required. It is really annoying.
- sammoth 8y agoI find that really useful
- ricardobeat 8y agoSounds like a terrible idea, if the interaction is not discoverable. Even if it was easy to understand, you need a lot more mouse dexterity than the average user to operate something like this.
- vanattab 8y agoI agree that this feature is actually really nice. But I also agree with the other criticisms that its hard to discover.
- tuxlifan 8y agoThanks for pointing that out! I've always thought it was depending on how far from the vertical edge (i.e. current value) I click that I either get a "drag" (if clicked close enough) or a "set / drag&set" (clicked farther away). Or maybe it was just my mental model I got stuck on from some Motif (IIRC?) controls. Actually, in Gimp 2.10.4 it now for me even changes the shape of the cursor: lower half: ↔ (left-right arrows) upper half: ↑ (up-arrow) so it seems they fixed the discoverability :)
- Turing_Machine 8y ago> sometimes when I start it it doesn't display toolbox Agreed. It's hard to imagine a scenario when you open a file in GIMP and don't want the tools. While there may be some such scenarios, it's hard to believe that it's a common case. > when I open the toolbox it is (sometimes) a vertical line of buttons (single column) instead of 5 columns that I begged it countless times to be Oh, yeah. Having the toolbox form factor changing and the tool buttons moving around (seemingly at random) is by far the most annoying part of GIMP for me. I don't actually much care what layout is chosen; I just want it to stay the same.
- ArtemZ 8y agoBut did you submit a bug report in their bugzilla?
- komali2 8y agoThe formatting you chose forced me to have to drag a scrollbar to the right to read your comment... please no :(