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I would like to see the same plots weighted by state population. Oh! Or compared to available housing or housing prices!

by iNate2000 8y ago

rubyfan 8y ago
That last bit would be interesting. You’d want to tie it to average salary of startup workers though? “Available” is a relative term right?
Eridrus 8y ago
Why? State population is irrelevant to anyone actually making a decision. It's not "fair", but that doesn't really matter. Though state-level statistics also aren't great for decision making IMO, it should probably be computed by metro area. I moved to NYC from the bay area, and I don't necessarily regret it, but you can see that there is a real gap in the depth of tech between the two, so if you want to work on cutting edge tech, the bay area is probably still the best place to be, though you may have to make quality of life sacrifices for that.
- nine_k 8y ago
  > real gap in the depth of tech Do you mean it's harder to hire top tech talent? Are the companies technologically less advanced? Something else?
  - Eridrus 8y ago
    More companies doing innovative tech work, rather than just deploying known tech. Lots of top tech talent drawn to that work, hiring is not necessarily easier (lots of competition), but as a person moving to SF you get more interaction with those people. NYC isn't bad on these metrics, but the bay area is just noticeably better.
- dv_dt 8y ago
  I think they're asking due to this effect. https://xkcd.com/1138/ https://xkcd.com/1138/ Though I suspect your qualitative contrast between the Bay area and NY is correct.
roter 8y ago
Or a transient analysis to get a sense of trends, particularly in light of recent articles talking about "Peak Valley" [0]. [0] https://www.economist.com/leaders/2018/08/30/why-startups-are-leaving-silicon-valley https://www.economist.com/leaders/2018/08/30/why-startups-ar...

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I would like to see the same plots weighted by state population. Oh! Or compared to available housing or housing prices!

by iNate2000 8y ago

I would like to see the same plots weighted by state population. Oh! Or compared to available housing or housing prices!

rubyfan 8y ago
That last bit would be interesting. You’d want to tie it to average salary of startup workers though? “Available” is a relative term right?
Eridrus 8y ago
Why? State population is irrelevant to anyone actually making a decision. It's not "fair", but that doesn't really matter. Though state-level statistics also aren't great for decision making IMO, it should probably be computed by metro area. I moved to NYC from the bay area, and I don't necessarily regret it, but you can see that there is a real gap in the depth of tech between the two, so if you want to work on cutting edge tech, the bay area is probably still the best place to be, though you may have to make quality of life sacrifices for that.
- nine_k 8y ago
  > real gap in the depth of tech Do you mean it's harder to hire top tech talent? Are the companies technologically less advanced? Something else?
  - Eridrus 8y ago
    More companies doing innovative tech work, rather than just deploying known tech. Lots of top tech talent drawn to that work, hiring is not necessarily easier (lots of competition), but as a person moving to SF you get more interaction with those people. NYC isn't bad on these metrics, but the bay area is just noticeably better.
- dv_dt 8y ago
  I think they're asking due to this effect. https://xkcd.com/1138/ https://xkcd.com/1138/ Though I suspect your qualitative contrast between the Bay area and NY is correct.
roter 8y ago
Or a transient analysis to get a sense of trends, particularly in light of recent articles talking about "Peak Valley" [0]. [0] https://www.economist.com/leaders/2018/08/30/why-startups-are-leaving-silicon-valley https://www.economist.com/leaders/2018/08/30/why-startups-ar...