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This is great, though it also illustrates how much farther India (and other countries) have to go in legal protection of LGBT people. Also, a bit off-topic her

This is great, though it also illustrates how much farther India (and other countries) have to go in legal protection of LGBT people. Also, a bit off-topic here, but it also reveals how stupid and hypocritical California's policy is, forbidding travel of state employees to US states that don't grant certain protections to transgender people. You can't go to Oklahoma because they don't have self-selection for bathrooms, but travel to places like India and China is just fine, for some reason.

moh_maya 8y ago
Umm, the Indian Supreme Court legally recognized the "third gender"; quoting from the article [1]: "When the Indian Supreme Court acknowledged that gender is a non-binary form of identity that goes beyond male and female, the victory came as a nice surprise to many." [2]: "India's Supreme Court has recognised transgender people as a third gender, in a landmark ruling that may offer gay people a glimmer of hope. It is the right of every human being to choose their gender," the court said in granting rights to those who identify themselves as neither male nor female. The court ordered the government to provide transgender people with quotas in jobs and education in line with other minorities, as well as key amenities." There are many issues that need to be fixed in India. But there are also many areas where India is far far more progressive than the US, at the very least. And this change has been accompanied by a social movement; should be faster, but change is happening. [1]https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/the-history-of-indias-third-gender-movement_us_58334db5e4b099512f841fd0 https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/the-history-of-indias-t... [2]https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/04/16/india-transgenders-third-gender_n_5157966.html?guccounter=1 https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/04/16/india-transgende...
- i_am_nomad 8y ago
  Excuse me, I wasn't addressing whether or not India protected the rights of transgender people. I was pointing out that until yesterday, gay sex in India was actually _illegal_, yet there was no ban on traveling there for California state employees. Which seems horribly hypocritical and basically an exercise in virtue signaling.
05 8y ago
Holding US states to higher standards than foreign countries surely is hypocritical.
- spamizbad 8y ago
  Is it? We certainly do it with regards to human rights and economic freedoms.

moh_maya 8y ago

Umm, the Indian Supreme Court legally recognized the "third gender"; quoting from the article [1]: "When the Indian Supreme Court acknowledged that gender is a non-binary form of identity that goes beyond male and female, the victory came as a nice surprise to many." [2]: "India's Supreme Court has recognised transgender people as a third gender, in a landmark ruling that may offer gay people a glimmer of hope. It is the right of every human being to choose their gender," the court said in granting rights to those who identify themselves as neither male nor female. The court ordered the government to provide transgender people with quotas in jobs and education in line with other minorities, as well as key amenities." There are many issues that need to be fixed in India. But there are also many areas where India is far far more progressive than the US, at the very least. And this change has been accompanied by a social movement; should be faster, but change is happening. [1]https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/the-history-of-indias-third-gender-movement_us_58334db5e4b099512f841fd0 https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/the-history-of-indias-t... [2]https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/04/16/india-transgenders-third-gender_n_5157966.html?guccounter=1 https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/04/16/india-transgende...

i_am_nomad 8y ago
Excuse me, I wasn't addressing whether or not India protected the rights of transgender people. I was pointing out that until yesterday, gay sex in India was actually _illegal_, yet there was no ban on traveling there for California state employees. Which seems horribly hypocritical and basically an exercise in virtue signaling.

05 8y ago

Holding US states to higher standards than foreign countries surely is hypocritical.

spamizbad 8y ago
Is it? We certainly do it with regards to human rights and economic freedoms.