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I love this seemingly new tendency of re-building the most basic things with much better design choices than originally made in 90-s (or 70-s) — it's sometimes

by krick 8y ago

I love this seemingly new tendency of re-building the most basic things with much better design choices than originally made in 90-s (or 70-s) — it's sometimes baffling how people are ok with using weird unintuitive tools all day every day, because it's always been this way and after spending a couple months on it everyone gets used to it. I mean, I love how user friendly (meaning configuration and all) kitty is out of the box. That's how tools made by programmers for programmers should look like. That said, kitty behaves a little weird when scrolling back and forth in vim — at least on my laptop with my vim colorscheme. It leaves out background of a line black until I jump on that specific line or simple refresh the screen. I wonder what might be the issue here.

aumerle 8y ago
https://sw.kovidgoyal.net/kitty/faq.html#using-a-color-theme-with-a-background-color-does-not-work-well-in-vim https://sw.kovidgoyal.net/kitty/faq.html#using-a-color-theme...
- krick 8y ago
  Thank you, I just installed it and am simply playing around, so didn't actually read the docs yet. This seems to help, however redrawing is still kind of weird, with artifacts appearing when resizing windows and such. Probably has to do with laptop's quasi-GPU. Also, alt+tab doesn't switch back to kitty's window, when kitty is in fullscreen mode.
Cthulhu_ 8y ago
The challenge is that if you build something new, users will expect it to have all the features that those 30 year in development tools have. Take idk, a chat client - used to be enough to have a list with just a timestamp, username and the message itself. Make a chat client nowadays and people expect emojis, pasting all kinds of images, web site previews, bot / api integration options, two factor authentication and everything from the start. The barrier to create something new is just a lot higher nowadays. IMO anyway. Just look at how often a new product - like this one - is compared to existing products on HN, and how many comments are about what features other products have that are dealbreakers.
JdeBP 8y ago
> I love this seemingly new tendency It's not new. Just one example from the 1980s is NeXTStep, which did away with the cryptic Unix directory names (/opt/sfw, /usr/ccs, /usr/mbin, /usr/rbin, /usr/5bin, and so on) in favour of /Library , /LocalLibrary , /Apps , /NextApps , and so forth.
mosdave 8y ago
A 747 cockpit looks pretty unintuitive to me, but the recognition that I don't know how to fly a 747 prevents me from passing premature judgement on it.

by krick 8y ago

aumerle 8y ago

https://sw.kovidgoyal.net/kitty/faq.html#using-a-color-theme-with-a-background-color-does-not-work-well-in-vim https://sw.kovidgoyal.net/kitty/faq.html#using-a-color-theme...

krick 8y ago
Thank you, I just installed it and am simply playing around, so didn't actually read the docs yet. This seems to help, however redrawing is still kind of weird, with artifacts appearing when resizing windows and such. Probably has to do with laptop's quasi-GPU. Also, alt+tab doesn't switch back to kitty's window, when kitty is in fullscreen mode.

Cthulhu_ 8y ago

The challenge is that if you build something new, users will expect it to have all the features that those 30 year in development tools have. Take idk, a chat client - used to be enough to have a list with just a timestamp, username and the message itself. Make a chat client nowadays and people expect emojis, pasting all kinds of images, web site previews, bot / api integration options, two factor authentication and everything from the start. The barrier to create something new is just a lot higher nowadays. IMO anyway. Just look at how often a new product - like this one - is compared to existing products on HN, and how many comments are about what features other products have that are dealbreakers.

JdeBP 8y ago

> I love this seemingly new tendency It's not new. Just one example from the 1980s is NeXTStep, which did away with the cryptic Unix directory names (/opt/sfw, /usr/ccs, /usr/mbin, /usr/rbin, /usr/5bin, and so on) in favour of /Library , /LocalLibrary , /Apps , /NextApps , and so forth.

mosdave 8y ago

A 747 cockpit looks pretty unintuitive to me, but the recognition that I don't know how to fly a 747 prevents me from passing premature judgement on it.