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> the proper recourse is never actively sabotaging the president of the United States Why not? > however, we still have a functional supreme court We don't.
by cliffordthedog 8y ago
> the proper recourse is never actively sabotaging the president of the United States
Why not?
> however, we still have a functional supreme court
We don't. Mitch McConnell saw to that 2 years ago.
- travmatt 8y agoAre you asking why Americans shouldn’t support an unelected cabal of secret plotters who seek to impose their ideology onto America by staging a coup?
- cliffordthedog 8y agoNo, I'm saying "don't undermine the president" applies, at most, to the people in the executive branch of the government.
- travmatt 8y agoThe op-ed was written by a senior member of the executive branch, so I’m not sure how that has any bearing on what’s being discussed here.
- cliffordthedog 8y agoOh I totally agree with the statement when restricted to people like the author. Even then it depends on the definition of "undermining". I think the author is cowardly, disingenuous, and dangerous.
- fjsolwmv 8y agoThere's no coup here. There are people upholding their sworn oath to defend the Constitution, and trying to make sense out of a logically incoherent President who hired them to do just that. The President can fire them at any time if he dislikes their work.
- hhjinks 8y ago> Why not? Because that's undermining the will of the people. Like it or not, per today, Trump was legitimately and fairly elected. This very well might change in the future, but as of now, we have to assume his presidency is legitimate, no matter how vile or incompetent he is.
- travmatt 8y agoI can question trump legitimacy and the elections fairness, but I know without question that the ‘resistance’ inside the White House is composed of people who were not elected by the American public. Whatever one thinks of trump legitimacy, you have to, by definition, think less of this coup’s legitimacy. Nobody voted for them, and as such they have no right to dictate American policy on any matter.
- cliffordthedog 8y agoI agree, but I'm a lot more fine with disruption, delays, and anything constitutionally allowed coming from outside the executive branch.