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I have to wonder - isn't the response to this kind of ridiculousness to simply not post on YouTube, for example: http://allofbach.com/en/ http://allofbach.com/e
by poulsbohemian 8y ago
I have to wonder - isn't the response to this kind of ridiculousness to simply not post on YouTube, for example: http://allofbach.com/en/ http://allofbach.com/en/ ? Yes it's not going to get you the audience YouTube might, but if their platform isn't serving legitimate artists then what good is it anyway?
- nugget 8y agoYouTube is probably most afraid of Twitch. I’d stream/post there instead and see what happens.
- metafizikal 8y agoEyeballs, basically. The eyeballs are on YouTube already, so if you want an audience and you're off YouTube, you're fighting an uphill battle. But classical music, sad to say, largely is a niche pursuit. Niche content can always find a home somewhere and users will seek it out. And I haven't followed the news closely, but if the EU is indeed going to mandate Content-ID style systems, theoretically these niche sites that don't have one will be under some level of legal and regulatory exposure? Not quite sure how any of that would work in practice.
- ars 8y agoIf someone tells me "Bach #xyz is amazing, you have to hear it", I'm going to type it into youtube to listen to it. I'm not going to search for it elsewhere because it's not a core interest of mine. Devoted fans will find content anywhere, but casual viewers will just look in the default spot.
- poulsbohemian 8y agoMaybe it is a generational thing, as I’ve always and continue to find YouTube nothing more than a cesspool and i would never think to go there first for something
- ars 8y agoI don't know what generation you are from, but I don't see how that makes any difference. Youtube is an everything-pool. It has garbage, it has wonderful. Generalizing about a site that large is foolish. You may want to Google "Sturgeon's law".
- metaphor 8y ago> I have to wonder - isn't the response to this kind of ridiculousness to simply not post on YouTube Apparently not. From the article: In one week, the European Parliament will vote on a proposal to force all online services to implement Content ID-style censorship, but not just for videos -- for audio, text, stills, code, everything.
- mirimir 8y agoWell, then. We need online services that can't be coerced.
- mattj1 8y agohttps://datproject.org/ https://datproject.org/ https://w3c-ccg.github.io/did-spec/ https://w3c-ccg.github.io/did-spec/ https://ipfs.io/ https://ipfs.io/ I wonder if these might help.
- mirimir 8y agoCool, thanks :) Bittorrent with streaming interface actually works pretty well. Edit: Re Dat, this is interesting, and promising: https://blog.datproject.org/2017/12/10/dont-ship/ https://blog.datproject.org/2017/12/10/dont-ship/
- mattj1 8y agoNice find, they seem true to their ideals based on that article. This is also interesting, cool demo of streaming video browser to browser: https://webtorrent.io/ https://webtorrent.io/
- mirimir 8y agoThat's cool. But I generally block WebRTC, as a privacy threat. But maybe it'd be OK, in a dedicated VM.
- rspeer 8y agoIt's not like just anyone can put a video on AllOfBach. That site is entirely the Netherlands Bach Society's project. If you're saying everyone should make their own AllOfBach... the website clearly has taken tons of development effort, its first iteration was unusably difficult to navigate, it's still not great at accessibility, and if I wanted a portable version of their recordings I have even fewer options than I would with YouTube. I'm glad AllOfBach exists but there's a reason people want to stick to the music services they are already familiar with.
- poulsbohemian 8y agoYes I’m saying that when you play in a walled garden, you should expect trouble whereas if you publish in your own (ie the whole original point of this www thing) then you play as an equal partner.