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If you're gassed up and ready to go I guess you just take off right?

oh_sigh 8y ago
Assuming aviation fuel is available, and the runways are in working order, the USG hasn't shut down all flights, and you can actually get to your plane, then sure. But I don't think those are all a given if there is really a situation in America where people literally need to flee the country at a moments notice.
- jessaustin 8y ago
  Do they really think the Kiwis don't have anti-aircraft guns? If USA goes to shit, none of us will be welcome there. Also as you hinted fairly few private planes are capable of that journey nonstop.
  - rhizome 8y ago
    I believe Thiel already has NZ citizenship.
  - VectorLock 8y ago
    Are they going to shoot down a plane full of refugee billionaires?
    - Johnny555 8y ago
      If the shit really hit the fan, are they still billionaires? Or rather, does billionaire status still mean anything?
      - jessaustin 8y ago
        Exactly. Most horrific disasters wouldn't even inconvenience these people. It would have to be something epochal to make them run away. In an "After America" world, they would have nothing to offer New Zealand. Oh, and also it would probably be all their fault too...
      - VectorLock 8y ago
        Would gold still have value? Would bullets be the new gold?
        jessaustin 8y ago
        Refugees are easily separated from gold. 'Twere ever thus.
  - stale2002 8y ago
    Why's that? We already have countries today "going to shit" in the ME, and yet I can assure you that the wealthy people in those countries can easily use their passports to get into any number of countries. Nobody is shooting down any passenger airplanes coming out of that area. And most people on these airplanes aren't even that wealthy. Upper middle class, maybe.
- VectorLock 8y ago
  Suppose you have to be ready to fly on a moments notice. If they shut down all flights, I guess they could shoot you down, but would they? I wonder how much a $1m/yr maintenance plan changes if the plane never flies at all.
- Johnny555 8y ago
  True, none of that is a given, but a billionare has a better chance than many of us at making sure his escape plan is viable. Driving your motorcycle 10 miles to a local airport to your airplane to take you to the long-range jet that's kept ready to launch sounds like a pretty decent plan. Though you've got to have a lot of trust in the pilot and your partners, what happens when 2 of them get to the escape jet and convince the pilot that if they don't take off now they'll never be able to take off? Another advantage the billionaire has is that he doesn't have to put all of his survival eggs in one basket, he can spent a million dollars+ a year on an escape plan and can still built a survival shelter with 2 years of food under his house.

Assuming aviation fuel is available, and the runways are in working order, the USG hasn't shut down all flights, and you can actually get to your plane, then sure. But I don't think those are all a given if there is really a situation in America where people literally need to flee the country at a moments notice.

jessaustin 8y ago
Do they really think the Kiwis don't have anti-aircraft guns? If USA goes to shit, none of us will be welcome there. Also as you hinted fairly few private planes are capable of that journey nonstop.
- rhizome 8y ago
  I believe Thiel already has NZ citizenship.
- VectorLock 8y ago
  Are they going to shoot down a plane full of refugee billionaires?
  - Johnny555 8y ago
    If the shit really hit the fan, are they still billionaires? Or rather, does billionaire status still mean anything?
    - jessaustin 8y ago
      Exactly. Most horrific disasters wouldn't even inconvenience these people. It would have to be something epochal to make them run away. In an "After America" world, they would have nothing to offer New Zealand. Oh, and also it would probably be all their fault too...
    - VectorLock 8y ago
      Would gold still have value? Would bullets be the new gold?
      - jessaustin 8y ago
        Refugees are easily separated from gold. 'Twere ever thus.
- stale2002 8y ago
  Why's that? We already have countries today "going to shit" in the ME, and yet I can assure you that the wealthy people in those countries can easily use their passports to get into any number of countries. Nobody is shooting down any passenger airplanes coming out of that area. And most people on these airplanes aren't even that wealthy. Upper middle class, maybe.
VectorLock 8y ago
Suppose you have to be ready to fly on a moments notice. If they shut down all flights, I guess they could shoot you down, but would they? I wonder how much a $1m/yr maintenance plan changes if the plane never flies at all.
Johnny555 8y ago
True, none of that is a given, but a billionare has a better chance than many of us at making sure his escape plan is viable. Driving your motorcycle 10 miles to a local airport to your airplane to take you to the long-range jet that's kept ready to launch sounds like a pretty decent plan. Though you've got to have a lot of trust in the pilot and your partners, what happens when 2 of them get to the escape jet and convince the pilot that if they don't take off now they'll never be able to take off? Another advantage the billionaire has is that he doesn't have to put all of his survival eggs in one basket, he can spent a million dollars+ a year on an escape plan and can still built a survival shelter with 2 years of food under his house.