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Buy a 5$/month Protonmail account and forward your gmail to it, and slowly migrate all of your various email-authenticated services to point to your protonmail

Buy a 5$/month Protonmail account and forward your gmail to it, and slowly migrate all of your various email-authenticated services to point to your protonmail account. Plus Protonmail makes it very easy to run email from a domain that you already own, like your portfolio domain.

hjek 8y ago
Are you actually willing to pay for an email provider that don't support SMTP and IMAP?
- craftyguy 8y ago
  It's baffling that people are willing to pay for another walled garden.
  - deleted 8y ago
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- alanh 8y ago
  IDK about Protomail, but Fastmail of course supports these protocols. Happy customer here, as are more than a handful of HNers. Reply to sibling: Why would anyone call an email provider a walled garden, especially if using your own domain name?!
  - toomuchtodo 8y ago
    I pay for Fastmail and I don't even use them (waiting for multi label support) just to ensure they remain an option when they support the feature I need to move away from Google.
    - ocdtrekkie 8y ago
      Switching from labels to folders has been painful as part of the FastMail transition, but I'm largely glad I made the change. Now my mail is standards-compliant and I don't have to deal with all sorts of crud when I have third party mail clients that don't support Gmail's custom stuff. I know FastMail is working on JMAP, which ideally will be a new standard that supports labels, but if it takes off, it'll be a number of years before labels is something you can assume a given mail client will support. I use platforms that rarely have official app support (aka, not iOS or Android), so wide standards compliance is a big key.
      - toomuchtodo 8y ago
        Legitimate concern.
- emilssolmanis 8y ago
  Yes, because at least then it's obvious how they make money.
jhoh 8y ago
For everything else (docs, hangouts, calendar etc.) simply host your own nextcloud. You can also go one step further and run a searx instance and you wont even have to rely on Google search (well, still kind of) anymore.
derekp7 8y ago
You can also host your own inbound mail, and use gmail for sending. You can add your personal domain email as a "send mail as" entry on gmail, and configure your personal email to use Google's smtp servers. That way you avoid issues with your domain's IP not being trusted by other mail servers.

hjek 8y ago

Are you actually willing to pay for an email provider that don't support SMTP and IMAP?

craftyguy 8y ago
It's baffling that people are willing to pay for another walled garden.
- deleted 8y ago
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alanh 8y ago
IDK about Protomail, but Fastmail of course supports these protocols. Happy customer here, as are more than a handful of HNers. Reply to sibling: Why would anyone call an email provider a walled garden, especially if using your own domain name?!
- toomuchtodo 8y ago
  I pay for Fastmail and I don't even use them (waiting for multi label support) just to ensure they remain an option when they support the feature I need to move away from Google.
  - ocdtrekkie 8y ago
    Switching from labels to folders has been painful as part of the FastMail transition, but I'm largely glad I made the change. Now my mail is standards-compliant and I don't have to deal with all sorts of crud when I have third party mail clients that don't support Gmail's custom stuff. I know FastMail is working on JMAP, which ideally will be a new standard that supports labels, but if it takes off, it'll be a number of years before labels is something you can assume a given mail client will support. I use platforms that rarely have official app support (aka, not iOS or Android), so wide standards compliance is a big key.
    - toomuchtodo 8y ago
      Legitimate concern.
emilssolmanis 8y ago
Yes, because at least then it's obvious how they make money.

jhoh 8y ago

For everything else (docs, hangouts, calendar etc.) simply host your own nextcloud. You can also go one step further and run a searx instance and you wont even have to rely on Google search (well, still kind of) anymore.

derekp7 8y ago

You can also host your own inbound mail, and use gmail for sending. You can add your personal domain email as a "send mail as" entry on gmail, and configure your personal email to use Google's smtp servers. That way you avoid issues with your domain's IP not being trusted by other mail servers.