As an example, there were technically 4 basic programming classes and a few trade focused ones like A+ certification, web design. Catch is, almost all never had

As an example, there were technically 4 basic programming classes and a few trade focused ones like A+ certification, web design. Catch is, almost all never had enough people to be offered so when I convinced the requisite 8 people to join (3 later dropped the class after the first week), it became a very "plan and you your own thing". Compare this to what the elite private coastal schools have, nothing would have been better. Those schools good CS students out of top master's programs with a penchant for teaching. It's no surprise that IOI champions come from these places.