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You're perhaps not the right person to ask all these questions, but maybe you'll be able to answer... Do you know how the application store will work? If I wri

by cryptoz 16y ago

You're perhaps not the right person to ask all these questions, but maybe you'll be able to answer... Do you know how the application store will work? If I write a WP7 app, can a user download it from my website or do I have to be listed in the store? And if I have to be listed in the store, what restrictions are there on apps? I ask because the main thing preventing me from being interested in WP7 is the lack of a decent web browser (Wikipedia's WP7 article claims the browser is "halfway between IE7 and IE8"). So, is there any chance that someone could port Chrome or Opera to WP7? Or is there no way to get HTML5 on WP7 at all?

kenjackson 16y ago
It pretty much has to be in the app store (of course some other methods, if you treat the phone as a dev phone, but clearly that's not scalable). The web browser is actually quite good for a mobile browser. It is true that its missing HTML5 capability, but that's coming over time. With that said, could you port over a browser? Not likely, you'd have to rewrite from scratch, as it has to be in managed code. I've never written a web-browser, but if it makes use of sockets (which I assume they do), you'll also be stuck, as this version doesn't have 3rd party support to access sockets. You'll probably need to wait until a future rev of the SDK, at which point IE9 will probably be just around the corner.
- evo_9 16y ago
  This lack of standards compliance in regards to browsers/ms is getting extremely old. For that reason alone I'm not going to write apps for this phone and I'm a c# guy. It's time we stopped supporting things that break the web intentionally or otherwise.
  - icey 16y ago
    I can't agree with this more. It's really frustrating to write web apps that work on all the standards compliant browsers, and then have to make all sorts of hacky changes to them because Microsoft decides to do its own thing. We're a .net shop, but now we just recommend that our users use other browsers to get the best experience. It looks like that won't be changing when it comes to mobile access either.
xpaulbettsx 16y ago
It's similar to Apple's model, but the restrictions are much more clear-cut and reasonable (no hate speech, app should do what it says it does, etc). As to the Chrome/Opera port, afaik it's possible but it would be pretty tricky.
rbanffy 16y ago
> is there any chance that someone could port Chrome or Opera to WP7? Unlikely. It would imply a full rewrite - WinMo 7 runs only managed code.

by cryptoz 16y ago

kenjackson 16y ago

It pretty much has to be in the app store (of course some other methods, if you treat the phone as a dev phone, but clearly that's not scalable). The web browser is actually quite good for a mobile browser. It is true that its missing HTML5 capability, but that's coming over time. With that said, could you port over a browser? Not likely, you'd have to rewrite from scratch, as it has to be in managed code. I've never written a web-browser, but if it makes use of sockets (which I assume they do), you'll also be stuck, as this version doesn't have 3rd party support to access sockets. You'll probably need to wait until a future rev of the SDK, at which point IE9 will probably be just around the corner.

evo_9 16y ago
This lack of standards compliance in regards to browsers/ms is getting extremely old. For that reason alone I'm not going to write apps for this phone and I'm a c# guy. It's time we stopped supporting things that break the web intentionally or otherwise.
- icey 16y ago
  I can't agree with this more. It's really frustrating to write web apps that work on all the standards compliant browsers, and then have to make all sorts of hacky changes to them because Microsoft decides to do its own thing. We're a .net shop, but now we just recommend that our users use other browsers to get the best experience. It looks like that won't be changing when it comes to mobile access either.

xpaulbettsx 16y ago

It's similar to Apple's model, but the restrictions are much more clear-cut and reasonable (no hate speech, app should do what it says it does, etc). As to the Chrome/Opera port, afaik it's possible but it would be pretty tricky.

rbanffy 16y ago

> is there any chance that someone could port Chrome or Opera to WP7? Unlikely. It would imply a full rewrite - WinMo 7 runs only managed code.