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Nonsense. > Every single release contains a lot of nasty bugs fixed in various places. Oh please. "Nasty bugs fixed in various places"? You're not replying to

Nonsense. > Every single release contains a lot of nasty bugs fixed in various places. Oh please. "Nasty bugs fixed in various places"? You're not replying to your mum here. Nothing, ever, should be forced down anyone's throat. Your attitude is what is making software become some kind of time-locked online service, even when it's installed on our machines. I will update software when I choose to, not when some commercially driven product manager decides to. How can you be so naive at the motivation behind taking away control of software installs on your machine? You think they're doing it to "keep you safe" because "your safety is their number one priority". Wow. Go ahead and let tech giants control your life at the granular level, but I will choose to control software updates on my machine, thanks.

orf 8y ago
Thankfully for the world this kind of nonsense, naive and borderline militant stance against your own security has not caught on. And yeah I would describe multiple remote code execution vulnerabilities that can be triggered with pretty much no user interaction as 'nasty'. You can find out just how vulnerable you are if you'd like, just find whatever crusty Firefox (or better yet a crusty fork!) version you are running here[1] and take a look. 1. https://www.cvedetails.com/version-list/452/3264/1/Mozilla-Firefox.html https://www.cvedetails.com/version-list/452/3264/1/Mozilla-F...
- exodust 8y ago
  What you're saying is these world class engineers can't develop a browser without giant security holes and vulnerabilities popping up every week. Sounds like a con job and intravenous koolaid drip you've volunteered yourself to. Security updates should be separate to whatever cosmetic product enhancements, feature additions or removal they push everyone to swallow. It's a basic principle to separate those concerns. The whole reason everyone advocates modular architecture is so we can update one area without it screwing over something else. Apparently "new look tabs we think you're going to love" can't be uncoupled from fixing a "critical security vulnerability". Anyone who fails to question that is drunk on kool-aid. You can be run over by a bus if you don't look both ways. Quick... everyone must install proximity alarms up their rear ends immediately, no opt out possible. Microsoft, Google, etc as a result see higher uptake of their new product offerings getting installed on machines much sooner than if the fear and urgency wasn't underlined. Windows now seems to allow software vendors to silently install updates, and re-install "update processes" that persist even when you explicitly remove them via msconfig, and opt out of them via the app's settings. Dropbox and others now behave like malware. That's on Microsoft for allowing this aggressive and silent update enforcement. Keep the fear levels high, and user control options low because it's good for business. We'll sell it as "good for security". I run recent versions of browsers, and obviously care about security. I just don't panic about being on some nightly cutting edge version out of fear of being compromised by the "critical" security holes built into the product cycle. I look both ways before crossing road. Those who don't shouldn't impact my freedom to cross the road without help from a mandatory rectal alarm.
  - orf 8y ago
    There is so much wrong in this monologue I'm not even sure where to start. Then I realized, why start at all.
    - exodust 8y ago
      Pointless. Next time say nothing if you have nothing.

orf 8y ago

Thankfully for the world this kind of nonsense, naive and borderline militant stance against your own security has not caught on. And yeah I would describe multiple remote code execution vulnerabilities that can be triggered with pretty much no user interaction as 'nasty'. You can find out just how vulnerable you are if you'd like, just find whatever crusty Firefox (or better yet a crusty fork!) version you are running here[1] and take a look. 1. https://www.cvedetails.com/version-list/452/3264/1/Mozilla-Firefox.html https://www.cvedetails.com/version-list/452/3264/1/Mozilla-F...

exodust 8y ago
What you're saying is these world class engineers can't develop a browser without giant security holes and vulnerabilities popping up every week. Sounds like a con job and intravenous koolaid drip you've volunteered yourself to. Security updates should be separate to whatever cosmetic product enhancements, feature additions or removal they push everyone to swallow. It's a basic principle to separate those concerns. The whole reason everyone advocates modular architecture is so we can update one area without it screwing over something else. Apparently "new look tabs we think you're going to love" can't be uncoupled from fixing a "critical security vulnerability". Anyone who fails to question that is drunk on kool-aid. You can be run over by a bus if you don't look both ways. Quick... everyone must install proximity alarms up their rear ends immediately, no opt out possible. Microsoft, Google, etc as a result see higher uptake of their new product offerings getting installed on machines much sooner than if the fear and urgency wasn't underlined. Windows now seems to allow software vendors to silently install updates, and re-install "update processes" that persist even when you explicitly remove them via msconfig, and opt out of them via the app's settings. Dropbox and others now behave like malware. That's on Microsoft for allowing this aggressive and silent update enforcement. Keep the fear levels high, and user control options low because it's good for business. We'll sell it as "good for security". I run recent versions of browsers, and obviously care about security. I just don't panic about being on some nightly cutting edge version out of fear of being compromised by the "critical" security holes built into the product cycle. I look both ways before crossing road. Those who don't shouldn't impact my freedom to cross the road without help from a mandatory rectal alarm.
- orf 8y ago
  There is so much wrong in this monologue I'm not even sure where to start. Then I realized, why start at all.
  - exodust 8y ago
    Pointless. Next time say nothing if you have nothing.