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Except that -ieren ending on sortieren is indicative of an import from Romantic languages, typically French or Italian. [0] So it's likely that the English and
by jdmichal 8y ago
Except that -ieren ending on sortieren is indicative of an import from Romantic languages, typically French or Italian. [0] So it's likely that the English and German word both share French sortir as an imported root. Etymonline lists it as 14th century English, so too late to have inherited it through German. [1]
[0] https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/-ieren#German https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/-ieren#German
[1] https://www.etymonline.com/word/sort#etymonline_v_24299 https://www.etymonline.com/word/sort#etymonline_v_24299
- anticensor 8y ago> Except that -ieren ending on sortieren is indicative of an import from Romantic languages, typically French or Italian. Except that it is Romance or Romanic languages, not Romantic languages.
- em-bee 8y agoalthough french and italian are seen as romantic by some :-)
- mattkrause 8y agoI think that’s a false cognate: in French, sortir means to leave or go/take out. Trier is means to sort or classify.
- jdmichal 8y agoThe meaning you listed seems to correlate across many Romance languages and caused me to start looking deeper. I found an Anglo-Norman dictionary [0], which lists meanings very much in line with those listed at Etymonline [1]. I can't explain the difference... The listed Latin root seems to allow the noted Anglo-Norman and later English meaning [2]. But modern Romance languages seem to have standardized a meaning similar to what you mention. There does seem to be widely-attested noun forms like French sorte, Italian sorta with a meaning along the lines of "type" or "kind". [0] http://www.anglo-norman.net/gate/ http://www.anglo-norman.net/gate/ [1] http://www.anglo-norman.net/D/sortir http://www.anglo-norman.net/D/sortir [2] https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/sortior#Latin https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/sortior#Latin