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I'm not sure how I feel about the commoditization of my career path.

by esaym 8y ago

bob_loblaw 8y ago
I'm right there with you, but the real trick educators have to pull is integrating coding into their content (math, science, history, language arts, etc.). These learn to code solutions teach as if there is no overlap with other subjects. I don't see this as the case.
toomuchtodo 8y ago
Your path should be to become financially independent and/or a business owner. Its the only way out as businesses attempt to drive down the cost of their labor.
- Someone1234 8y ago
  As a business owner logically wouldn't your customers also be trying to drive down costs/eliminate you? Plus this isn't particularly useful advice. Without a large amount of capital, luck, or a compelling concept it isn't trivial for people to become financially independent and or a business owner.
  - toomuchtodo 8y ago
    Well, yeah, you need luck and either capital or work to become financially independent. You don't need to be intelligent to be a business owner, and you don't have to be a business owner to make an above average wage and invest it. https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/style/longterm/books/chap1/millionairenextdoor.htm?noredirect=on https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/style/longterm/books/c...
yourapostasy 8y ago
Commoditization in the US is already a done deal through offshoring and H1B visa abuse. Lots of good advice is dispensed here on HN when these topics come up on how people have successfully dodged the trend. one path I don't see mentioned much around here (for good reasons) is going into sales. Good sales people who also know the technical side and can present that technical side without "going geek" are extremely rare and recession-proof, but the initial sales ramp up learning curve when you're cold-calling out of prospect lists is brutal on the ego if you've never done that sort of activity.
pofilat 8y ago
Priests felt the same way when the masses learned to read.
- umanwizard 8y ago
  Well at any rate, the difference is that nearly anyone can learn to read, whereas there is no evidence to suggest that more than a few percent of people can become a computer programmer. So I personally am not worried.
  - analog31 8y ago
    Indeed, the analogy that came to me was that high schools already teach math, but I don't see the market for math skills being depressed by a glut of talent.
  - zenzen 8y ago
    > there is no evidence to suggest that more than a few percent of people can become a computer programmer Source?
  - 3x 8y ago
    > Well at any rate, the difference is that nearly anyone can learn to read, whereas there is no evidence to suggest that more than a few percent of people can become a computer programmer. LOL, programmers aren't that special. I would stake my life that 90% of people have whatever genetic potential necessary to become at least an average programmer.

I'm not sure how I feel about the commoditization of my career path.

by esaym 8y ago

I'm not sure how I feel about the commoditization of my career path.

I'm right there with you, but the real trick educators have to pull is integrating coding into their content (math, science, history, language arts, etc.). These learn to code solutions teach as if there is no overlap with other subjects. I don't see this as the case.

toomuchtodo 8y ago

Your path should be to become financially independent and/or a business owner. Its the only way out as businesses attempt to drive down the cost of their labor.

Someone1234 8y ago
As a business owner logically wouldn't your customers also be trying to drive down costs/eliminate you? Plus this isn't particularly useful advice. Without a large amount of capital, luck, or a compelling concept it isn't trivial for people to become financially independent and or a business owner.
- toomuchtodo 8y ago
  Well, yeah, you need luck and either capital or work to become financially independent. You don't need to be intelligent to be a business owner, and you don't have to be a business owner to make an above average wage and invest it. https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/style/longterm/books/chap1/millionairenextdoor.htm?noredirect=on https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/style/longterm/books/c...

yourapostasy 8y ago

Commoditization in the US is already a done deal through offshoring and H1B visa abuse. Lots of good advice is dispensed here on HN when these topics come up on how people have successfully dodged the trend. one path I don't see mentioned much around here (for good reasons) is going into sales. Good sales people who also know the technical side and can present that technical side without "going geek" are extremely rare and recession-proof, but the initial sales ramp up learning curve when you're cold-calling out of prospect lists is brutal on the ego if you've never done that sort of activity.

pofilat 8y ago

Priests felt the same way when the masses learned to read.

umanwizard 8y ago
Well at any rate, the difference is that nearly anyone can learn to read, whereas there is no evidence to suggest that more than a few percent of people can become a computer programmer. So I personally am not worried.
- analog31 8y ago
  Indeed, the analogy that came to me was that high schools already teach math, but I don't see the market for math skills being depressed by a glut of talent.
- zenzen 8y ago
  > there is no evidence to suggest that more than a few percent of people can become a computer programmer Source?
- 3x 8y ago
  > Well at any rate, the difference is that nearly anyone can learn to read, whereas there is no evidence to suggest that more than a few percent of people can become a computer programmer. LOL, programmers aren't that special. I would stake my life that 90% of people have whatever genetic potential necessary to become at least an average programmer.