>Police and intelligence agencies always sound like they are asking for total Orwellian control because they know they'll get only 1% of what they ask for -- so

>Police and intelligence agencies always sound like they are asking for total Orwellian control because they know they'll get only 1% of what they ask for -- so ask big. It's a negotiating strategy. they have a level of surveillance that orwell could not have imagined. orwell imagined hidden microphones and highly visible cameras. we have all of those things and far more. you see, if they negotiate 10000 times and they get 1% of what they want each of those times, things move in their direction and eventually they have more than what they originally wanted.