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> Most people that work in politics or intelligence in liberal states aren't in it for the power This may be true, but even if so it is irrelevant. You do not
by ptero 8y ago
> Most people that work in politics or intelligence in liberal states aren't in it for the power
This may be true, but even if so it is irrelevant. You do not need evil intentions from hundreds of thousands of worker bees to make something ugly. Just a few politicians or leaders on top are sufficient. I suspect in WW2 Germany most factory workers making gas chamber equipment were diligent, hard working, family loving fellows who did not know the full use for the product they were building.
And yes, I do not trust politicians who lie to the public "for its own good". I think most of those are in it for the power.
- 3pt14159 8y agoThis is a valid point; and completely worth discussing. I was replying to someone that was saying something different, however. In terms of lying to the public: I agree to a point. I think there are certain truths that can't be voiced for fear of enabling our adversaries. That being said, however, I think it was counter productive for our intelligence agencies to lie about the dragnet. It almost invited a Snowden like character and the inevitable public blowback wasn't worth it.