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Very surprised she would take on such a reviled role, she hasn’t historically played villains has she? I think that movie was planned at a time that Holmes was

by gaius 8y ago

Very surprised she would take on such a reviled role, she hasn’t historically played villains has she? I think that movie was planned at a time that Holmes was still believed to be tragic and delusional rather than a cold-blooded conwoman with no redeeming features.

Fnoord 8y ago
Its not about hero or villain, its that she has a repertoire of strong female (main) characters. Katniss Everdeen is a hero for District 13, but an enemy and villain for the rest due to the survival of the fittest nature of that world.
- gaius 8y ago
  Katniss was a heroine to the viewers. Holmes is not a heroine to a anyone. And she exploited the “strong female” narrative all along the way, undermining other women.
  - Fnoord 8y ago
    True, however Holmes tried to be the heroine. Having to act as if you're the heroine until the last few scenes, with some twists in between, isn't a typical villain role.
    - scott_s 8y ago
      For a movie that hews startlingly close to that narrative, check out "The Informant!" starring Matt Damon and directed by Steven Soderbergh. I'm also not surprised Lawrence would be drawn to the role, it seems in line with what she does well: strong female characters. They're not always likable characters (for example, in "American Hustle"), and it also shouldn't be a surprise when an actor expands into different kinds of roles.
      - Fnoord 8y ago
        Thanks, I've added them to my todo list. First movie I ever saw Jennifer Lawrence in was Winter's Bone [1]. Goodness grace, she's such a heroine in that movie. No wonder she got typecast for the strong female roles. [1] https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1399683/ https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1399683/
        scott_s 8y ago
        Me as well, and I definitely noticed that her role in "Hunger Games" was basically a young-adult dystopian scifi version of her role in "Winter's Bone" - and I feel her performance in both made each movie.
        alanh 8y ago
        Excellent movie. Not underrated, but under-watched.
    - gaius 8y ago
      Holmes tried to be the heroine. Holmes tried to convince people she was the heroine, which is not quite the same thing I suppose they could also make a movie about Fiorina, boldly destroying jobs and shareholder value at a rate no one had ever dreamt of...
cpeterso 8y ago
> I think that movie was planned at a time that Holmes was still believed to be tragic and delusional rather than a cold-blooded conwoman with no redeeming features. The "Bad Blood" movie is based on the "Bad Blood" book, which is the definitive source documenting Holmes' frauds.

by gaius 8y ago

Fnoord 8y ago

Its not about hero or villain, its that she has a repertoire of strong female (main) characters. Katniss Everdeen is a hero for District 13, but an enemy and villain for the rest due to the survival of the fittest nature of that world.

gaius 8y ago
Katniss was a heroine to the viewers. Holmes is not a heroine to a anyone. And she exploited the “strong female” narrative all along the way, undermining other women.
- Fnoord 8y ago
  True, however Holmes tried to be the heroine. Having to act as if you're the heroine until the last few scenes, with some twists in between, isn't a typical villain role.
  - scott_s 8y ago
    For a movie that hews startlingly close to that narrative, check out "The Informant!" starring Matt Damon and directed by Steven Soderbergh. I'm also not surprised Lawrence would be drawn to the role, it seems in line with what she does well: strong female characters. They're not always likable characters (for example, in "American Hustle"), and it also shouldn't be a surprise when an actor expands into different kinds of roles.
    - Fnoord 8y ago
      Thanks, I've added them to my todo list. First movie I ever saw Jennifer Lawrence in was Winter's Bone [1]. Goodness grace, she's such a heroine in that movie. No wonder she got typecast for the strong female roles. [1] https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1399683/ https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1399683/
      - scott_s 8y ago
        Me as well, and I definitely noticed that her role in "Hunger Games" was basically a young-adult dystopian scifi version of her role in "Winter's Bone" - and I feel her performance in both made each movie.
      - alanh 8y ago
        Excellent movie. Not underrated, but under-watched.
  - gaius 8y ago
    Holmes tried to be the heroine. Holmes tried to convince people she was the heroine, which is not quite the same thing I suppose they could also make a movie about Fiorina, boldly destroying jobs and shareholder value at a rate no one had ever dreamt of...

cpeterso 8y ago

> I think that movie was planned at a time that Holmes was still believed to be tragic and delusional rather than a cold-blooded conwoman with no redeeming features. The "Bad Blood" movie is based on the "Bad Blood" book, which is the definitive source documenting Holmes' frauds.