To quote my initial reaction; "In Germany firing a teacher or cop isn't hard because unions but because they're state employees which makes it hard to fire the

To quote my initial reaction; "In Germany firing a teacher or cop isn't hard because unions but because they're state employees which makes it hard to fire them at all (though it does happen)." So no, I haven't given up on anything, no. I haven't asked for evidence either and I did at least read over the more interesting parts. > the unionization status of teacher in Germany. Teachers and cops. >making it hard to fire bad employees Well, as far as the paper seems to indicate they make it harder to fire any employee, which naturally also means you have it harder to fire bad employees, though this is a consequence rather than unions specifically making it hard to fire bad employees, at least as far as I can tell from the paper and some thinking.