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No, we're talking about Boise, Idaho. Also, suggesting it's fine to just imprison people because they'd have it better in prison anyway... I'm speechless.

gamblor956 8y ago
I'm not arguing that it's fine to imprison people just because they'd be better off-you're the one saying that. I'm saying that it's not cruel or unusual to send someone to jail as a punishment for committing a crime if they were living on the streets. It is by definition not cruel because they're living situation would be better locked up than free. It is by definition not unusual because incarceration is the standard punishment for most crimes.
- GW150914 8y ago
  The homeless advocates behind this lawsuit also assume that street life is somehow preferable to jail or prison, where occupants are provided 3 square meals a day, warm and clean clothing, a clean dedicated space to sleep, and all the free health services you need. Please explain what that meant if it wasn’t an argument that they’re better off behind bars. Try not to argue in the alternative, because Christ almighty is that boring.
  - throwaway917100 8y ago
    I think he is trying to say is that this is not a cruel and unusual punishment. Its not unusual because putting people in jail is a usual affair in US. Now in terms of cruelty, the only cruel thing according to him about landing up in jail is your right to freedom is taken from you. Even though I agree this is a big punishment but taking your freedom was never considered a cruel punishment even if the crime committed was small. Aside from freedom, he believes homeless are well off in prison in certain states rather than being on the streets. Personally, my only perception of US prison system if through movies, so I cannot comment on it. But I have personally seen homeless people committing small crimes in developing countries to land in prison for a month or 2 in case the weather becomes extreme outside ( Rains , snowfall etc).
    - GW150914 8y ago
      I was specifically responding to this: I'm not arguing that it's fine to imprison people just because they'd be better off-you're the one saying that. When in fact he’s been saying just that, repeatedly and vociferously. At this point though I’m not seeing a lot of gold at the end of this rainbow, just more hypocrisy and questionable claims, so I’m out.

gamblor956 8y ago

I'm not arguing that it's fine to imprison people just because they'd be better off-you're the one saying that. I'm saying that it's not cruel or unusual to send someone to jail as a punishment for committing a crime if they were living on the streets. It is by definition not cruel because they're living situation would be better locked up than free. It is by definition not unusual because incarceration is the standard punishment for most crimes.

GW150914 8y ago
The homeless advocates behind this lawsuit also assume that street life is somehow preferable to jail or prison, where occupants are provided 3 square meals a day, warm and clean clothing, a clean dedicated space to sleep, and all the free health services you need. Please explain what that meant if it wasn’t an argument that they’re better off behind bars. Try not to argue in the alternative, because Christ almighty is that boring.
- throwaway917100 8y ago
  I think he is trying to say is that this is not a cruel and unusual punishment. Its not unusual because putting people in jail is a usual affair in US. Now in terms of cruelty, the only cruel thing according to him about landing up in jail is your right to freedom is taken from you. Even though I agree this is a big punishment but taking your freedom was never considered a cruel punishment even if the crime committed was small. Aside from freedom, he believes homeless are well off in prison in certain states rather than being on the streets. Personally, my only perception of US prison system if through movies, so I cannot comment on it. But I have personally seen homeless people committing small crimes in developing countries to land in prison for a month or 2 in case the weather becomes extreme outside ( Rains , snowfall etc).
  - GW150914 8y ago
    I was specifically responding to this: I'm not arguing that it's fine to imprison people just because they'd be better off-you're the one saying that. When in fact he’s been saying just that, repeatedly and vociferously. At this point though I’m not seeing a lot of gold at the end of this rainbow, just more hypocrisy and questionable claims, so I’m out.