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I don't have much hopes that this ruling will survive an appeal to the US Supreme Court. The Ninth Circuit is one of the most overturned circuits by the Supreme

I don't have much hopes that this ruling will survive an appeal to the US Supreme Court. The Ninth Circuit is one of the most overturned circuits by the Supreme Court.

ajross 8y ago
The overwhelming majority of appellate decisions never reach the supreme court (because if they did, there'd be no point to having an appellate level at all if the high court needed to review everything). It's true that the 9th circuit is the most reversed. It's not true that any given decision is likely to be overturned.
eric_b 8y ago
The Ninth Circuit has a fairly obvious agenda. They are activist judges - using the bench to push policy. Whether you agree with them or not, there is nothing impartial about the way they conduct their work.
- kevinh 8y ago
  Can you point out some examples of the ninth circuit bypassing proper procedure and jurisprudence to push their own policy?
  - eric_b 8y ago
    Stephen Reinhardt was a self proclaimed activist judge. Wikipedia has decent info on how he conducted himself: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Reinhardt#Judicial_philosophy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Reinhardt#Judicial_phi... The very makeup of the court is unusual, and results in issues. Even SCOTUS thinks it should be changed: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Court_of_Appeals_for_the_Ninth_Circuit#Controversy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Court_of_Appeals... The fact that they are reversed so often, have firebrand partisans on the bench (Reinhard recently died, but there are others carrying his ideology), and don't even come to a complete consensus between all the judges is enough for me to conclude it's not the most impartial court around. (I wager other apellate courts suffer from similar issues, but I'd prefer my judges to be as unbiased as possible, even if I mostly agree with their agenda)
    - gnadx 8y ago
      So.... no examples.
masonic 8y ago
It may not even survive en banc.

I don't have much hopes that this ruling will survive an appeal to the US Supreme Court. The Ninth Circuit is one of the most overturned circuits by the Supreme Court.

ajross 8y ago

The overwhelming majority of appellate decisions never reach the supreme court (because if they did, there'd be no point to having an appellate level at all if the high court needed to review everything). It's true that the 9th circuit is the most reversed. It's not true that any given decision is likely to be overturned.

eric_b 8y ago

The Ninth Circuit has a fairly obvious agenda. They are activist judges - using the bench to push policy. Whether you agree with them or not, there is nothing impartial about the way they conduct their work.

kevinh 8y ago
Can you point out some examples of the ninth circuit bypassing proper procedure and jurisprudence to push their own policy?
- eric_b 8y ago
  Stephen Reinhardt was a self proclaimed activist judge. Wikipedia has decent info on how he conducted himself: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Reinhardt#Judicial_philosophy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Reinhardt#Judicial_phi... The very makeup of the court is unusual, and results in issues. Even SCOTUS thinks it should be changed: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Court_of_Appeals_for_the_Ninth_Circuit#Controversy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Court_of_Appeals... The fact that they are reversed so often, have firebrand partisans on the bench (Reinhard recently died, but there are others carrying his ideology), and don't even come to a complete consensus between all the judges is enough for me to conclude it's not the most impartial court around. (I wager other apellate courts suffer from similar issues, but I'd prefer my judges to be as unbiased as possible, even if I mostly agree with their agenda)
  - gnadx 8y ago
    So.... no examples.

masonic 8y ago

It may not even survive en banc.