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> Calling someone a butthead is rude, calling someone a racial slur is also rude but also much worse. But we are talking about racial slurs and not just "rude"

> Calling someone a butthead is rude, calling someone a racial slur is also rude but also much worse. But we are talking about racial slurs and not just "rude" language. I don't agree that there's some hierarchy of racism where changing the race moves you up and down the offensive scale. All racism is equally bad, yes even that pointed toward white people.

pvg 8y ago
I'd suggest you do a bit of reading on this because you keep repeating that very premise - it is simple, compelling, seemingly 'fair' and thoroughly wrong. I outlined it above but, obviously, much better and clearer things have been written about it. Racism is not a matter of calling people names.
- malvosenior 8y ago
  We're obviously not going to agree on this. It's not just you or I though, this is a huge debate of our times. I truly believe the dictionary definition of racism will continue to be how most people view, define and react to statements like Jeong's. Racism = bad is really tough to argue against. We'll see if the left can prescriptively redefine what "racism" means to align with their politics. I have serious doubts that it will pick up steam though.
  - pvg 8y ago
    this is a huge debate of our times. It's not. This particular one is mostly manufactured twitter outrage. I truly believe the dictionary definition of racism You aren't using a 'dictionary definition of racism'. You're using one in which evoking literal Nazism is the same thing as being upset at someone's unfunny edgelordery. It's not a good look and you ought to reconsider.
    - malvosenior 8y ago
      Telling people who are upset about racism that their outrage is manufactured, is "not a good look and you ought to reconsider" > You aren't using a 'dictionary definition of racism'. The dictionary definition or racism is this: "prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior." So I guess I am using the dictionary definition.

pvg 8y ago

I'd suggest you do a bit of reading on this because you keep repeating that very premise - it is simple, compelling, seemingly 'fair' and thoroughly wrong. I outlined it above but, obviously, much better and clearer things have been written about it. Racism is not a matter of calling people names.

malvosenior 8y ago
We're obviously not going to agree on this. It's not just you or I though, this is a huge debate of our times. I truly believe the dictionary definition of racism will continue to be how most people view, define and react to statements like Jeong's. Racism = bad is really tough to argue against. We'll see if the left can prescriptively redefine what "racism" means to align with their politics. I have serious doubts that it will pick up steam though.
- pvg 8y ago
  this is a huge debate of our times. It's not. This particular one is mostly manufactured twitter outrage. I truly believe the dictionary definition of racism You aren't using a 'dictionary definition of racism'. You're using one in which evoking literal Nazism is the same thing as being upset at someone's unfunny edgelordery. It's not a good look and you ought to reconsider.
  - malvosenior 8y ago
    Telling people who are upset about racism that their outrage is manufactured, is "not a good look and you ought to reconsider" > You aren't using a 'dictionary definition of racism'. The dictionary definition or racism is this: "prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior." So I guess I am using the dictionary definition.