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This is form of discrimination against older workers who get no paid leave to care for their ageing parents. I went through hell 5 yrs ago where I was on a dea

This is form of discrimination against older workers who get no paid leave to care for their ageing parents. I went through hell 5 yrs ago where I was on a death march project and had family situation involving a parent. I will not support any of this until they change this into a 'life situation' leave instead of parent leave.

cimmanom 8y ago
Why not support this as a step along this route instead of treating it as a zero-sum game?
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bendmorris 8y ago
We're all in this together. You can support parental leave and also advocate for other types of family leave. Not only are they not mutually exclusive, stronger parental leave norms will probably make other types of leave more acceptable.
- dominotw 8y ago
  > We're all in this together. Exactly my point too. We should all come together and make it fair for older workers( esp older women) who often are tasked with caring for a parent(s). I've been a parent too and caring for parent situations are often way more arduous and tend to get worse. Accepting parent leave without giving a break to any other situation is just 'fuck you i got mine' case.
oh_sigh 8y ago
Older people are allowed to have kids as well, and so are just as eligible for paternity/maternity leave. Even if women are past the age of child bearing, they can adopt children and be eligible for maternity leave. For your situation - were you not eligible for the FMLA?
- poulsbohemian 8y ago
  FMLA is a joke. All FMLA actually says is the company can't outright fire you if you need up to 12 weeks to deal with family matters. The company is under no obligation to do anything else for you and if you can't afford to take time off without pay, well sux to be you.
  - adrr 8y ago
    California its paid.
  - oh_sigh 8y ago
    Depends on the state. What about the business? They hired you for a reason, and you want them to keep paying you while you are not doing anything for them. What if the business can't afford to pay in a state where it is mandated? Well, sux to be them.
    - HelloNurse 8y ago
      The business also wants me to come back after leave instead of moving to a less expensive place while looking for another job. Paid leave is an investment.
- dominotw 8y ago
  > Older people are allowed to have kids as well Did you read my comment at all? I am not talking about having kids. >For your situation - were you not eligible for the FMLA? Because I needed a salary to pay medical bills and provide for new living arrangements .

cimmanom 8y ago

Why not support this as a step along this route instead of treating it as a zero-sum game?

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bendmorris 8y ago

We're all in this together. You can support parental leave and also advocate for other types of family leave. Not only are they not mutually exclusive, stronger parental leave norms will probably make other types of leave more acceptable.

dominotw 8y ago
> We're all in this together. Exactly my point too. We should all come together and make it fair for older workers( esp older women) who often are tasked with caring for a parent(s). I've been a parent too and caring for parent situations are often way more arduous and tend to get worse. Accepting parent leave without giving a break to any other situation is just 'fuck you i got mine' case.

oh_sigh 8y ago

Older people are allowed to have kids as well, and so are just as eligible for paternity/maternity leave. Even if women are past the age of child bearing, they can adopt children and be eligible for maternity leave. For your situation - were you not eligible for the FMLA?

poulsbohemian 8y ago
FMLA is a joke. All FMLA actually says is the company can't outright fire you if you need up to 12 weeks to deal with family matters. The company is under no obligation to do anything else for you and if you can't afford to take time off without pay, well sux to be you.
- adrr 8y ago
  California its paid.
- oh_sigh 8y ago
  Depends on the state. What about the business? They hired you for a reason, and you want them to keep paying you while you are not doing anything for them. What if the business can't afford to pay in a state where it is mandated? Well, sux to be them.
  - HelloNurse 8y ago
    The business also wants me to come back after leave instead of moving to a less expensive place while looking for another job. Paid leave is an investment.
dominotw 8y ago
> Older people are allowed to have kids as well Did you read my comment at all? I am not talking about having kids. >For your situation - were you not eligible for the FMLA? Because I needed a salary to pay medical bills and provide for new living arrangements .