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There's also: - Living near people who are taking the same classes as you. 18-22 year olds often do not have the drive or study skills to stay focused and enga

There's also: - Living near people who are taking the same classes as you. 18-22 year olds often do not have the drive or study skills to stay focused and engaged with remote learning. My most educational experiences at college were studying with groups in-person. I don't know how well that can be replicated online, especially with youth. I saw multiple students fail out of college because they skipped classes and didn't learn because they were faffing around. How much more common will that be when you're just sitting at home on a computer, without being in an environment that pushes you to participate in school?

tnecniv 8y ago
> the same classes as you. And different classes for that matter. You learn a lot from just hanging out with people in different majors.
nicoburns 8y ago
But why does this learning need to happen at 18-22. I wen't to college at 18, and I very much wish that I hadn't. I would have been much better off getting a job for a few years first.
- yardie 8y ago
  In the UK and Europe it is quite normal for students to take a gap year before starting university. Work, travel, apprentice, and save before buckling down for university studies. In the US this is not done at all. It's a pipeline of financial aid and rankings. Colleges don't like when you defer after accepting, that messes up your FAFSA and financial aid package (for reasons I don't comprehend). They'll allow you to defer up to one semester but anymore than that starts the application over. If you don't apply right out of high school they silo you into the non-traditional student stack. Your ranking is lowered and you lose out on all sorts of financial aid scholarships. You have to take out students loans or fund it through the GI Bill (because you enlisted, right?). Self-discovery and learning is something they'd rather you pay them for, not backpacking through the outback.
  - SenHeng 8y ago
    Europe also has countries where national service is still a thing making university deferment an actual necessity.
- chrisseaton 8y ago
  I went back to university after working for just a couple of years. It's definitely a totally different experience going back with a wife, daughter and mortgage, than living in a student room with other people at 18.
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tnecniv 8y ago

> the same classes as you. And different classes for that matter. You learn a lot from just hanging out with people in different majors.

nicoburns 8y ago

But why does this learning need to happen at 18-22. I wen't to college at 18, and I very much wish that I hadn't. I would have been much better off getting a job for a few years first.

yardie 8y ago
In the UK and Europe it is quite normal for students to take a gap year before starting university. Work, travel, apprentice, and save before buckling down for university studies. In the US this is not done at all. It's a pipeline of financial aid and rankings. Colleges don't like when you defer after accepting, that messes up your FAFSA and financial aid package (for reasons I don't comprehend). They'll allow you to defer up to one semester but anymore than that starts the application over. If you don't apply right out of high school they silo you into the non-traditional student stack. Your ranking is lowered and you lose out on all sorts of financial aid scholarships. You have to take out students loans or fund it through the GI Bill (because you enlisted, right?). Self-discovery and learning is something they'd rather you pay them for, not backpacking through the outback.
- SenHeng 8y ago
  Europe also has countries where national service is still a thing making university deferment an actual necessity.
chrisseaton 8y ago
I went back to university after working for just a couple of years. It's definitely a totally different experience going back with a wife, daughter and mortgage, than living in a student room with other people at 18.

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