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For me, muscle cars just got pincered out. I had a '99 Mustang GT convertible. Loved it, worked on it, drove it for 14 years. A brand new Mustang GT coupe star
by shaftway 8y ago
For me, muscle cars just got pincered out.
I had a '99 Mustang GT convertible. Loved it, worked on it, drove it for 14 years. A brand new Mustang GT coupe starts at $35,355 but a more realistic configuration would put you around $43,000. That's a car that gets 15-25 mpg.
Instead we picked up a Model 3, which after tax rebates in CA comes out to $41,000. It's not the most fun car on the planet (though it does match the Mustang GT's 0-60 times). But for driving around when I need to run errands and stuff it's just fine. But I don't use the Tesla for my commute. I'm in the Bay Area, and my commute is about 40 miles. That'd be 1:45 hours in, and 2:30 to get home, so a little over 4 hours of commute per day.
For commuting I have a motorcycle. I dropped $9000 on an almost-new bike that gets ~50 mpg. It's more fun than the Mustang was, peppy, perky, and with reasonable lane splitting (i.e. no more than 15 mph over surrounding traffic) my commute drops to well under an hour to get in, and under an hour and a half to get home.
I do about 20,000 miles in commuting per year, so for the Mustang that'd be $4000 in fuel per year, with the Tesla it'd be ~$200, and on the bike it's about $1500 plus around 400 hours of my life back (which is a trade I'm happy to make). My total was ~$50,000 vs. ~$43,000 for a new Mustang.
So I have no idea where a "muscle car" would fit in my life.
- daleco 8y agoDid you take into account that the Mustangs can be negociated at a good 20% off if done at a proper time? E.g. previous year model, mid-year cycle / during the winter. Seems like it would put it on par with the Tesla. I heard that the Tesla's are not negociable (I may be wrong).
- shaftway 8y agoYeah, you can also get a good deal if you're willing to take a floor model, even if it's shipped from somewhere else. Teslas actually can be negotiated, at least the Model S can. My wife drives this and we were able to get a 75D with enhanced auto-pilot and the rear-facing seats for about $75,000 (list is $86,000). It was right around when they were phasing out the 60, and part of the negotiation was knocking $4000 off the price to software limit the 75 kwh down to 60 kwh.
- EADGBE 8y ago> and part of the negotiation was knocking $4000 off the price to software limit the 75 kwh down to 60 kwh. This is crazy! (In a good way). So I assume in a few years you can throw $4k at it to get better battery life and performance?
- sharkmerry 8y agoare you incorporating the lower safety of a motorcycle into possible costs? A motorcycle accident can put you out of work for a lot longer than a car.
- shaftway 8y agoI did. It's a trade-off I was willing to make.
- sharkmerry 8y agoCan i ask how? Trying to make a similar call.