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Actually it's mostly not genes but your day to day habits and science know from a long time how to reverse it (well, eyes doctors mostly don't know it...): http

Actually it's mostly not genes but your day to day habits and science know from a long time how to reverse it (well, eyes doctors mostly don't know it...): https://endmyopia.org/the-elephant-in-the-room/ https://endmyopia.org/the-elephant-in-the-room/

madeuptempacct 8y ago
This guy is a self-promoter and a fraud. He pushes some "cillary pop" idea that the eyes "pop" into position after looking at far objects for a long time. This has zero scientific evidence. He has refused to come debate a scientist and markets a "secret" method for fixing eyes. In short, I am all for natural eyesight fixes, but this guy is a fraud.
- walterbell 8y ago
  Which scientist (neurologist? behavioral ophthalmologist?) wants to debate this topic? There are many science paper/study references on his site.
  - madeuptempacct 8y ago
    Why doesn't he get a group of twenty people together, record their progress, and then become a billionaire selling his method? I totally would if I had "the secret". In fact, if anyone wants to fund me to do eye-exercise research, I will quit my job right now.
    - walterbell 8y ago
      There is no method. The blog and videos are public and free. Might be hard to understand for those earning billions of revenue from lenses and frames. Requires time investment to learn basic eye health principles which are well known to vision therapists.
      - madeuptempacct 8y ago
        Don't lie: " BackTo 20/20 $$$ Paid Program 20 Minutes Structured Sessions Member Exclusive Support Forum Step By Step Approach Back To 20/20 Personal Guidance With Jake " https://endmyopia.org/consultations/ https://endmyopia.org/consultations/
        walterbell 8y ago
        The videos and blog are free. The paid service is for “coaching”. There are thousands of people in a Facebook group who discuss the free material on videos and blog. Based on the Facebook discussions, almost no one pays for the coaching, and even if you want to pay, you need an invite. The author seems to have a separate business unrelated to eye health. If he is trying to make money from the blog, he is doing a terrible job by giving away so much for free and making the paid service so hard to buy. All of that is irrelevant to the point that the scientific knowledge is public, cited and requires no payment. If you are someone motivated to improve your vision, you get to decide whether you will believe what you can see with your own eyes. You can also find a vision therapist via covd.org, which can easily cost a few thousand dollars in the US.
        madeuptempacct 8y ago
        You haven't answered my question on why he hasn't presented concrete proof if he is so sure his method works. Or would that hurt sales? Edit: Your reply is as deep as the nesting goes, so I am just replying here. I will look into your link, but you really have done nothing to substantiate your claims.
        walterbell 8y ago
        There are many people in the Facebook group who can speak firsthand of their success in applying knowledge that has been known to vision therapists for decades. Anyone interested in improving their own vision can quickly find out for themselves. This is not specific to any one person’s “method”. Or you can pay for a licensed professional from http://covd.org http://covd.org Here is a different site which independently reached similar conclusions: https://gettingstronger.org/2016/03/faq-for-vision-improvement-by-hormetism/ https://gettingstronger.org/2016/03/faq-for-vision-improveme... Edit: you are essentially asking for an explanation of behavioral opthalmology in an Internet comment. Any COVD professional will happily answer your questions for a fee. The Endmyopia site tries to communicate some of those principle in layman language, and it has required dozens or hundreds of blog posts and answers to reader questions. The link above provides a condensed explanation. If wearing glasses works for someone, they are unlikely to seek out alternatives. The people who seek alternatives are motivated because glasses are not meeting their use cases, e.g. myopia has steadily worsened. That motivation then justifies their effort to learn the principles used by vision therapists, or the budget to pay a vision therapist for structured vision therapy that lasts months to years.

madeuptempacct 8y ago

This guy is a self-promoter and a fraud. He pushes some "cillary pop" idea that the eyes "pop" into position after looking at far objects for a long time. This has zero scientific evidence. He has refused to come debate a scientist and markets a "secret" method for fixing eyes. In short, I am all for natural eyesight fixes, but this guy is a fraud.

walterbell 8y ago
Which scientist (neurologist? behavioral ophthalmologist?) wants to debate this topic? There are many science paper/study references on his site.
- madeuptempacct 8y ago
  Why doesn't he get a group of twenty people together, record their progress, and then become a billionaire selling his method? I totally would if I had "the secret". In fact, if anyone wants to fund me to do eye-exercise research, I will quit my job right now.
  - walterbell 8y ago
    There is no method. The blog and videos are public and free. Might be hard to understand for those earning billions of revenue from lenses and frames. Requires time investment to learn basic eye health principles which are well known to vision therapists.
    - madeuptempacct 8y ago
      Don't lie: " BackTo 20/20 $$$ Paid Program 20 Minutes Structured Sessions Member Exclusive Support Forum Step By Step Approach Back To 20/20 Personal Guidance With Jake " https://endmyopia.org/consultations/ https://endmyopia.org/consultations/
      - walterbell 8y ago
        The videos and blog are free. The paid service is for “coaching”. There are thousands of people in a Facebook group who discuss the free material on videos and blog. Based on the Facebook discussions, almost no one pays for the coaching, and even if you want to pay, you need an invite. The author seems to have a separate business unrelated to eye health. If he is trying to make money from the blog, he is doing a terrible job by giving away so much for free and making the paid service so hard to buy. All of that is irrelevant to the point that the scientific knowledge is public, cited and requires no payment. If you are someone motivated to improve your vision, you get to decide whether you will believe what you can see with your own eyes. You can also find a vision therapist via covd.org, which can easily cost a few thousand dollars in the US.
        madeuptempacct 8y ago
        You haven't answered my question on why he hasn't presented concrete proof if he is so sure his method works. Or would that hurt sales? Edit: Your reply is as deep as the nesting goes, so I am just replying here. I will look into your link, but you really have done nothing to substantiate your claims.
        walterbell 8y ago
        There are many people in the Facebook group who can speak firsthand of their success in applying knowledge that has been known to vision therapists for decades. Anyone interested in improving their own vision can quickly find out for themselves. This is not specific to any one person’s “method”. Or you can pay for a licensed professional from http://covd.org http://covd.org Here is a different site which independently reached similar conclusions: https://gettingstronger.org/2016/03/faq-for-vision-improvement-by-hormetism/ https://gettingstronger.org/2016/03/faq-for-vision-improveme... Edit: you are essentially asking for an explanation of behavioral opthalmology in an Internet comment. Any COVD professional will happily answer your questions for a fee. The Endmyopia site tries to communicate some of those principle in layman language, and it has required dozens or hundreds of blog posts and answers to reader questions. The link above provides a condensed explanation. If wearing glasses works for someone, they are unlikely to seek out alternatives. The people who seek alternatives are motivated because glasses are not meeting their use cases, e.g. myopia has steadily worsened. That motivation then justifies their effort to learn the principles used by vision therapists, or the budget to pay a vision therapist for structured vision therapy that lasts months to years.