Having used clojure for quite a while now I both agree and disagree. I agree that these very productized, opinionated, monolithic libraries/scaffoldings are gre

Having used clojure for quite a while now I both agree and disagree. I agree that these very productized, opinionated, monolithic libraries/scaffoldings are great in getting people to use your language and clojure lacks them. OTOH I think it does lacks them mostly for the right reasons. Libraries just being a bunch of functions/macros you can use anywhere you want is what's great about lisp/clojure. Personally I hope the clojure community puts less emphasis on ever becoming a mainstream language and instead focuses on making sure it's THE modern viable lisp for years to come.